Page 1 of 20 1 2 3 4 5 6 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 477
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    truckee
    Posts
    10,610

    People dying on Mt. Everest, what else is new

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/23/w...sultPosition=1

    That line waiting to stand on the summit is worse than KT on a storm powder day. People dying because they have to wait 3 hours because of the crowds. Faahk. Maybe I won't complain so much next time it takes me 4 hours to get home from Squaw. No, I probably will.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    11,494
    Why wouldn't you actually use some skill and climb around? Fucking posers. Go over, go left. Throw a screw or two. Go up, rap down, and GTFO?

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Location
    in a frozen jungle
    Posts
    2,134






    60+K$ = human centipede
    Scientists now have decisive molecular evidence that humans and chimpanzees once had a common momma and that this lineage had previously split from monkeys.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    base of the Bush
    Posts
    10,689
    www.apriliaforum.com

    "If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?

    "I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
    Ottime

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Left Field
    Posts
    46,804
    Quote Originally Posted by Svengali View Post





    wow. that's incredible.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    Wet and Mild
    Posts
    4,687
    Just shows there are too many people with too much disposable income.
    Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    cow hampshire
    Posts
    4,161
    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    wow. that's incredible.
    Yeah, you'd kinda wish it was photoshopped.

    http://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2019...o-many-deaths/

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Aug 2016
    Posts
    1,858
    weird to me how many of today's wealthy spend lots of money to stand in line with other rich people.

    it is a pretty mountain in a cool place though.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Alpental
    Posts
    5,867
    I keep wondering if the people who died are captured in that line up pic.
    Move upside and let the man go through...

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    3,284
    No quota system? Shit Mt Whitney has one
    Education must be the answer, we've tried ignorance and it doesn't work!

  11. #11
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    SF & the Ho
    Posts
    5,775

    People dying on Mt. Everest, what else is new

    Is the step even still there? I never heard confirmed one way or another if it was gone or not after the landslide. This trek has has been a cluster fuck since the 80s and worse since the Chinese side opened up. I think I recall Nepal had some caps on permits, the Chinese side not so much.

    File under people ruin everything: untouched beaches, powder days, scuba sites, etc.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Where its steep but too short !
    Posts
    90
    They need to spend more time on the clean-up effort, just saying. . .
    The thought for the week is if you want to know who loves you the most lock your wife and the dog in the trunk of your car and see how they react when you let them out

  13. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    truckee
    Posts
    10,610
    Quote Originally Posted by MakersTeleMark View Post
    Why wouldn't you actually use some skill and climb around? Fucking posers. Go over, go left. Throw a screw or two. Go up, rap down, and GTFO?
    Because if you were capable of doing that you wouldn't be there in the first place.

  14. #14
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Posts
    287
    Jesus, that's horrible. What's the point? If I had the money to throw at an Everest expedition, I would spend it on something else that doesn't have a wait that makes Disneyland look like a cake walk.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Tejas
    Posts
    5,619
    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    weird to me how many of today's wealthy spend lots of money to stand in line with other rich people.

    it is a pretty mountain in a cool place though.
    That's always perplexed me too. Having flown over many of the unbelievably massive mountain ranges in that part of the world, what really struck me as I was flying over them (sitting in the co-pilot's seat with a stunning front row view) was the thought that the vast majority of those gigantic peaks have never been summited or even visited at all. Unbelievably remote and probably insanely difficult to even get to.

    Heck. I wonder how many of those dentists could have avoided the lines altogether by just hiking alternative mountains in the region. Still pretty damn tall and gnarly.

  16. #16
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    northern BC
    Posts
    17,797
    https://jingdaily.com/how-mountainee...K4n_4sRympZsJg

    Apparently a lot of my people are climbing mountains
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Dec 2009
    Location
    ECO
    Posts
    3,855
    Add three more dead on Thursday. 7 total in the last week.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48395241

  18. #18
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Location
    slc
    Posts
    10,468
    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Because if you were capable of doing that you wouldn't be there in the first place.
    Exactly. Quite a few of those people had probably never worn crampons before this trip.

    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    That's always perplexed me too. Having flown over many of the unbelievably massive mountain ranges in that part of the world, what really struck me as I was flying over them (sitting in the co-pilot's seat with a stunning front row view) was the thought that the vast majority of those gigantic peaks have never been summited or even visited at all. Unbelievably remote and probably insanely difficult to even get to.

    Heck. I wonder how many of those dentists could have avoided the lines altogether by just hiking alternative mountains in the region. Still pretty damn tall and gnarly.
    The whole tragedy with Everest is that it's the tallest, but not gnarly. The fact Earth's highest peak isn't technically difficult to climb almost makes me think that God exists, and that he's a sick twisted bastard who likes to entertain himself by watching people with more money than sense suffer and die chasing a vapid narcissistic achievement.

  19. #19
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    truckee
    Posts
    10,610
    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    That's always perplexed me too. Having flown over many of the unbelievably massive mountain ranges in that part of the world, what really struck me as I was flying over them (sitting in the co-pilot's seat with a stunning front row view) was the thought that the vast majority of those gigantic peaks have never been summited or even visited at all. Unbelievably remote and probably insanely difficult to even get to.

    Heck. I wonder how many of those dentists could have avoided the lines altogether by just hiking alternative mountains in the region. Still pretty damn tall and gnarly.
    So you come back from your expedition and tell people at the cocktail party you climbed Gasherbrum II* and they're like, "What? You didn't even climb Gasherbrum I ?", and they go off to talk to someone else.

    *Actually in the Karakoram, not the the Himalaya.

  20. #20
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Posts
    4,931
    Paying guides to walk your gear through that icefall is moderately unethical.... "here, please risk death for my convenience"

    And the queues up top are really dumb from a few different angles. Go do Cho Oyu or some other mountain that's not crowded. Experience the same life-changing climb, have a unique story.

  21. #21
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Missoula DMV
    Posts
    615
    I honestly have no remorse at this point regarding the traffic jams on Everest. That opinion piece jackstraw really hits it home. All that time, money, and effort spent to climb in the Himalayas, all just to "stand on top of the world". Jesus how many 8,000m peaks are there in that range? There are so many lesser-known peaks that would be well worth the effort vs. Everest. It's trashing the area as well, which to me is an almost greater tragedy.

    Still, I can only imagine the influx of tourism dollars to the area over the past decade. It's a hard drug to quit if your nation is as poor as Nepal.

  22. #22
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    base of the Bush
    Posts
    10,689
    Could end up crippled as well.



    www.apriliaforum.com

    "If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?

    "I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
    Ottime

  23. #23
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    a poop plant
    Posts
    2,914
    I find the idea of climbing a mountain just to say you did completely ridiculous. But then I find idea of climbing a mountain just to survival ski down some crusty couloir pretty silly too. Never really got any of that ego shit. I like to have fun. I could give a fuck about conquests.

  24. #24
    Join Date
    May 2012
    Location
    san diego
    Posts
    1,462
    Quote Originally Posted by mcski View Post
    File under people ruin everything: untouched beaches, powder days, scuba sites, etc.
    The vast majority of people won't go explore something new or really come up with anything on their own. But if something gets enough hype and publicity, people will flock to it, oblivious to other nearby options that are just as good and without the crowds. It always blows me away how every "hiker" wants to go do Mt Whitney. Shouldn't you do some less strenuous hikes and peaks first to get in shape? In San Diego we have a few peaks that get swarmed. But go on a side trail from same trailhead over to a different saddle and there is no one on it. I shouldn't complain. I'm glad people are such sheeple since it leaves those other places less crowded for those of us who still want to get away.

  25. #25
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    SF & the Ho
    Posts
    5,775

    People dying on Mt. Everest, what else is new

    Quote Originally Posted by S_jenks View Post
    I honestly have no remorse at this point regarding the traffic jams on Everest. That opinion piece jackstraw really hits it home. All that time, money, and effort spent to climb in the Himalayas, all just to "stand on top of the world". Jesus how many 8,000m peaks are there in that range? There are so many lesser-known peaks that would be well worth the effort vs. Everest. It's trashing the area as well, which to me is an almost greater tragedy.
    .
    I kinda feel the same about no remorse w Everest getting trashed. At least try to keep the trashing centralized as long as possible. It's like how I feel about adults that keep going to Disney - at least they aren't fucking some place else up.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •