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    You may recall the story of Lincoln Hall who was left for dead by his partners on Everest some years back. This dude and others gave up their summit bids to save him.


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    I still think it's really cool to climb Everest. It's by far the coolest mountain in the world. Everyone knows Everest, no matter the country or the culture. I can climb mt joeschmoo for the first time ever and it could be the gnarliest and most beautiful peak a mountaineer has ever laid eyes on and you could care less. But Joe Schmoo climbs Everest and he's all of a sudden, Joe that climbed Everest. There's no topping it, literally.

    People kill themselves all the time and society does so little to prevent that, who cares if people want to risk death climbing a mountain?

    Seems like American media cares more about the few rich dumbasses that die yearly on Everest than the hundreds of Americans that take their lives daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angle Parking View Post
    You may recall the story of Lincoln Hall who was left for dead by his partners on Everest some years back. This dude and others gave up their summit bids to save him.

    I read something about the beauty of Alpinism and the code of helping others. I forget what it was, by Mallory or Muir ... the code of alpinism.

    That being said .... Cashiers getting hit by huge lineups of Boxing Day Shoppers at the summit of Everest is something that should be avoided. Limit the number that can go up in any one 24 hour period by lottery. The issue seems more of management this year. It should never get to the situation it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    My head was shaking reading about the 63yo US climber that had HAPE or HACE at camp 4 and went down to recoup lower and go back up even higher to summit. Only to die of it on the way down from the summit. I mean, his body told him to fuck off. Why is that ignored? Feel bad for his family.
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    Is anyone actually bothered by a handful of rich, entitled, assholes dying in the name of a selfish pursuit? This story is pretty much antithetical to a tragedy in my mind. The world will be a better place having a few less of these egomaniacs around. It's just a shame that these world class narcissists don't take their whole families up there. Good riddance.
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    Anybody else pay attention to the occupations of the people who've been dying? I seem to be noticing a lot of articles mentioning they're doctors and lawyers. Guess they should've stuck to their day jobs.

    What REALLY disturbed me was a USA Today article I read recently with a Sherpa they interviewed talking about how he saw climbers who had apparently never put on crampons before, struggling to get them on before even setting out. Seriously. What idiot doesn't even know how to put on crampons and thinks to himself "Hmm. Maybe I should I go summit Mount Everest!" Brilliant idea there, geniuses.

    Here's a hint to any would-be mountain climbers. How about tackling the basics first before setting out to climb the tallest mountain on the entire freaking planet, huh? I know, I know. Not enough Instagram street cred but at least you won't be endangering the life of some poor Sherpa who's gotta drag your sorry carcass up the mountain to help you get your selfie to show off to your nurses or paralegals back at the office.

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    You dont see any Dentists in the self check out line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    Is anyone actually bothered by a handful of rich, entitled, assholes dying in the name of a selfish pursuit?
    Not really. There's a certain poetic justice to it all in the age of the 1% fucking everything up. Humans, ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AustinFromSA View Post
    Anybody else pay attention to the occupations of the people who've been dying? I seem to be noticing a lot of articles mentioning they're doctors and lawyers. Guess they should've stuck to their day jobs.

    What REALLY disturbed me was a USA Today article I read recently with a Sherpa they interviewed talking about how he saw climbers who had apparently never put on crampons before, struggling to get them on before even setting out. Seriously. What idiot doesn't even know how to put on crampons and thinks to himself "Hmm. Maybe I should I go summit Mount Everest!" Brilliant idea there, geniuses.

    Here's a hint to any would-be mountain climbers. How about tackling the basics first before setting out to climb the tallest mountain on the entire freaking planet, huh? I know, I know. Not enough Instagram street cred but at least you won't be endangering the life of some poor Sherpa who's gotta drag your sorry carcass up the mountain to help you get your selfie to show off to your nurses or paralegals back at the office.
    it seems everytime there's deaths on everest the same quotes, the same cliches come out. some of that may/may not be true imo it seems way more likely that someones having trouble with crampons because they are exhausted than that they never used them.

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    Posers, most of them.

    When you don’t have to work, you have to justify yourself somehow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cono Este View Post
    Posers, most of them.

    When you don’t have to work, you have to justify yourself somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    it seems everytime there's deaths on everest the same quotes, the same cliches come out. some of that may/may not be true imo it seems way more likely that someones having trouble with crampons because they are exhausted than that they never used them.

    can't agree with you here, dunfree --

    the 'guided (climbing) industry' has changed the Himalaya - actually for a long time now ( Twenty years(?) ) ...

    The Requirement Now is the ability to Pay ( : no technical ability required.

    ( I had a long post drafted on Sunday that got crashed in cyberspace - about stepping out of line at 27,000 feet and attempting to free-climb. I doubt more than Few in that line have the ability(,) and even fewer ( in the post Just above ) have the physical fitness. Sixty-three on Everest. HAPE and HACE and went back Up (?) no. )


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    GENEVA—Saying they had no real problem with wealthy thrill-seekers failing in their efforts to scale the tallest mountain on earth, the entire human population admitted Tuesday that they are, in fact, completely fine with rich people dying on Mount Everest. “These guys shelling out a hundred grand to climb a 29,000-foot peak with a team of Sherpas are obviously aware that many people have died in the attempt, so they kind of know what they’re getting into, right?” said Cleveland resident Richard Warvil, echoing the sentiments of the world’s 7.7 billion people, who acknowledged the deaths of affluent amateur climbers who voluntarily ascend to heights at which oxygen stops reaching the brain don’t really upset them all that much. “At a certain point, you’re kind of bringing it on yourself. Plus, if you have that much disposable income and, of all the things you could do with that money, you choose to spend it on this—well, we’re actually okay with you dying. It may sound harsh, but we’re gonna get along just fine without you.” At press time, sources confirmed no candlelight vigils were being held at the foot of Mount Everest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    Is anyone actually bothered by a handful of rich, entitled, assholes dying in the name of a selfish pursuit? The world will be a better place having a few less of these egomaniacs around. It's just a shame that these world class narcissists don't take their whole families up there. Good riddance.
    i’m bothered that you feel this way about these peoples
    family members. why should they be taken there, to die?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    i’m bothered that you feel this way about these peoples
    family members. why should they be taken there, to die?
    IDK - Selective Darwinism? What if they were all Don McLean fans?

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    maybe the older ones are
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    I'm bothered when Sherpas die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    Is anyone actually bothered by a handful of rich, entitled, assholes dying in the name of a selfish pursuit? This story is pretty much antithetical to a tragedy in my mind. The world will be a better place having a few less of these egomaniacs around. It's just a shame that these world class narcissists don't take their whole families up there. Good riddance.
    This is classic glademaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    I'm bothered when Sherpas die.
    And porters...

    I was friends with a sherpa that died on Everest. He was a rock star. Thousands wept.

    I recall the mid (?)-80's scientific expedition to Everest to study the effects of high altitude on the body. One of the PIs (research-focused M.D.) was a guest lecturer in a college physiology course that i took. One of the major takeaways was the severe loss of cognition function, from coordination to critical thinking skills.

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    "Any time I see a dead body I go back the way I came." T. Noah

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    I'm bothered when Sherpas die.
    Something we actually agree on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    "Any time I see a dead body I go back the way I came." T. Noah
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    Could it be that mountaineers are actually witches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bromontane View Post
    Could it be that mountaineers are actually witches?
    and warlocks you sexist piece of junk
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