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05-30-2019, 05:23 PM #226
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05-30-2019, 05:48 PM #227
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05-30-2019, 05:53 PM #228
I get the feeling that this type of situation happens all over this mountain.
https://www.reddit.com/r/alpinism/co...come_may_2019/
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05-30-2019, 06:14 PM #229
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05-30-2019, 07:54 PM #230Registered User
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05-30-2019, 08:10 PM #231Registered User
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It happened on Liberty Ridge, while they were in their tents, so almost certainly around Thumb Rock. If so, crowding was likely a contributing cause here too, because there are not many protected bivy spots there, and if they are all taken, late comers are forced to pitch their tents in less protected spots. Liberty Ridge has a very high death to success ratio, especially for such a popular climb.
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05-30-2019, 08:41 PM #232
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05-30-2019, 09:42 PM #233Jacket Cobbler
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05-30-2019, 10:03 PM #234
There was a good piece on Sherpas, the risks they take, and the huge amount of luxury crap they have to haul through the icefall--Bryant Gumbel's Real Sports #257 on HBO.
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05-31-2019, 08:31 AM #235
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05-31-2019, 08:38 AM #236Funky But Chic
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05-31-2019, 08:47 AM #237
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05-31-2019, 08:50 AM #238Funky But Chic
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If I could be camping on a beautiful mountain and get instantly squished in my sleep by a giant rock I think that would be a win.
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05-31-2019, 08:52 AM #239Registered User
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People dying on Mt. Everest, what else is new
Last edited by mcski; 05-31-2019 at 09:58 AM.
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05-31-2019, 08:53 AM #240
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05-31-2019, 08:56 AM #241
it's got a 2 month climbing season https://www.nps.gov/mora/planyourvis...Routebrief.pdf those numbers are 1) average and 2) % successful. not hard to see how good weather window + weekend could lead to more people than the route can handle aka "crowding"
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05-31-2019, 09:16 AM #242Registered User
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There are limited permits available for the Thumb Rock camp that are issued by the climbing ranger. I think it’s less than 12 people at any time. There’s usually 4 or 5 tent platforms already chopped out from previous parties to choose from. Overcrowding hasn’t been an issue that I’m aware of but it sure could be if it wasn’t tightly regulated.
This is the first death on LR since 2014 when a party of 6 were swept away. They were camped between Thumb Rock and the summit (for some unknown reason).
Here’s a pretty good article about LR https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...rainier-route/
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05-31-2019, 10:53 AM #243Registered User
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The standard strategy for LR is to bivy at Thumb Rock, but there are very few protected spots there. The route is only "in" for about a month per year, and only about half of that month has decent enough weather for an attempt. Add in that is one of the "50 Classics" and you have a perfect scenario for "overcrowding". This issue is well known among local climbers. It also could have been a protective wall of choss above the bivy that fell on them. Either way, LR has an exceptionally high casualty rate for such an "easy" (fkt is 7 hours car to car) and popular climb.
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05-31-2019, 11:10 AM #244
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05-31-2019, 11:20 AM #245Registered User
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05-31-2019, 11:42 AM #246Move upside and let the man go through...
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05-31-2019, 12:00 PM #247Registered User
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People ignore the permit regulations and rocks have struck people camped at Thumb Rock before. I've even heard stories of rocks passing through tents there, like bullets. A guy died 2015 after being forced to bivy on Liberty Cap after climbing LR, due to a storm. AFAIC, that's an LR death.
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05-31-2019, 12:01 PM #248
http://slcsherpa.blogspot.com/2017/0...ar-to.html?m=1
Same guy who did a sub 4 hour round trip on the disappointment cleaver
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05-31-2019, 12:30 PM #249
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05-31-2019, 01:14 PM #250
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