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    Joffre aka Last Descents thread

    Cody has generous with all of us derailing his Fifty thread. With the ongoing collapse of Joffre figured it was time for its own thread.
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    Now outdated by yesterday’s larger collapse, here’s some photos from Sunday nights first

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    Awesome!

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    https://globalnews.ca/news/5287436/j...ide-in-a-week/

    Looking at the pics, as it stands now it may be too soon to say central is gone. the upper is still there and the lower could hold snow we won't know until next year unless the rest of the wall collapses.
    we do know that it's not central any more. ;-)
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    Wow that is just Crazy! Was Cody the last to ski it? Nobody is ticking off last descents! So legendary

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    Quote Originally Posted by teamdirt View Post
    Wow that is just Crazy! Was Cody the last to ski it? Nobody is ticking off last descents! So legendary
    They skied the still intact Joffre Couloir
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    Taking "timing is key" to the next level

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    Neither Cody nor the rest of us had any idea how prescient he was in making that comment, and in what way we're in an era of last descents.

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    Prescient though not exactly in the way he intended... Funny how our interpretations of prophecies are always just a little bit oblique to their real meaning, way back to the Greeks. At least if you believe in that kinda thing.

    By the look of the ice composition that's a hanging glacier on top of there, right? Never have I seen that term become so literal. Even disregarding the rock that thing's gotta be destabilized as hell now. What even happens usually in this situation? I guess there wasn't a moraine holding it in before really, but I can't imagine the remnant being long for this world even if it does stay mostly stuck to the rock.

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    Central Couloir before

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    Shot from the side of Joffre Peak. Steep as it looks.

    That's the face that Matt Bodkin and Andre Ike skied direct from the Peak to Twisting in the late 90s I believe?

    I followed their tracks down and skied Twisting. Our tracks were probably right along the line of the fracture where the hanging glacier fell to its death along with the rest of the snow and ice on Joffre.

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    So it certainly looks like Central still goes. An damn that thing is fat in your before pic. I could ski that if i could get across that rib into the gut.
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    wow. so are there any warning signs for this kind of thing? would be a real shitty way to go... what causes the face of a mountain to fall off? glad no one in the area..

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    Right?

    Was this event something where a geologist might have looked at that face last year and thought “that’s unstable” or was this mysterious and random. Seismic activity?

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    Quote Originally Posted by grapedrink View Post
    wow. so are there any warning signs for this kind of thing? would be a real shitty way to go... what causes the face of a mountain to fall off? glad no one in the area..
    I'm gonna say the power of water & gravitii.
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    My wife’s cabin is on the other side of the massif, under Twin Goat. Catelina Cr has a fairly recent return interval for torrents, it was lucky that the last time it puked out no one was hurt. The community is faced with the cost of millions to try and mitigate the risk from the ‘smaller’ debris torrents; no mitigating if something of this scale came off the mountain though.

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    Wow, those are crazy pics. Just like when there was massive rockfall in Yosemite last year, my buddy said, "Geologic time takes millions and billions of years. But we are also in it - right now."

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    Quote Originally Posted by powdork View Post
    So it certainly looks like Central still goes.
    with a parachute maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    with a parachute maybe?
    Para Chute...fify
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    Joffre aka Last Descents thread

    Quote Originally Posted by grapedrink View Post
    wow. so are there any warning signs for this kind of thing? would be a real shitty way to go... what causes the face of a mountain to fall off? glad no one in the area..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DBdude View Post
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    we're not talking about seracs breaking off.. that's normal, and to be expected.. it's an objective risk everyone is well aware of.. we're talking about the side of a mountain falling off, not a regular occurrence where i'm from.

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    Rapid warming and rapid snow melt a likely cause of the slide according to landslide scientist blogger guy: https://blogs.agu.org/landslideblog/...k-temperature/

    As far as whether Central goes or not, it does look like the lower portion of the couloir still may be in tact, though it may be more planar now which would negatively impact snow sticking. That being said, the reason I spoke of last descents in the episode was because of the local knowledge that was saying the receding of the glacier was the primary culprit for snow not stacking into the exit of Central very well anymore. So in my opinion, what was already an issue for Central being less skiable than ever has become exacerbated by the rockslide. But of course there is a chance the fan rises in elevation and makes it more skiable... We'll have to wait till winter to find out.

    Oh and the next mountain that everyone is watching with highly suspect eyes is Currie. I saw some fucked up rock formations and rock moats on the ridgeline that look hair trigger.

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    This photo taken from the air on Saturday May 18 shows the massive scale of the run out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik View Post
    Oh and the next mountain that everyone is watching with highly suspect eyes is Currie. I saw some fucked up rock formations and rock moats on the ridgeline that look hair trigger.
    Currie rumbles all summer long. Big pieces let go all the time. It's only a matter of time before a really big event happens on Currie.

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