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  1. #1201
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    Be careful maxing out what you think your tire width can be. If you stuff a wheel in a ditch or some rocks and get a little wobble in youíre wheel, you want to make sure you have room between your fork/frame and tire with a wobble. Or else youíre walking home when the wheel wonít spin.

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    ^^^ And if itís not quite that bad for you to have to walk out you may get enough rub to ruin your frame.


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    ah yeah fair enough, space doesnít mean itís a good idea. Iím not gonna sweat 43 in a 42 though

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTskibum View Post
    ^^^ And if itís not quite that bad for you to have to walk out you may get enough rub to ruin your frame.


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    Yup. This was with the stock tires on my gravel bike. Wore straight through the chainstays. Expensive way to learn about the abrasive properties of mud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbest Known Time View Post
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    Yup. This was with the stock tires on my gravel bike. Wore straight through the chainstays. Expensive way to learn about the abrasive properties of mud.
    Ouch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    I laughed…

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbest Known Time View Post
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    Yup. This was with the stock tires on my gravel bike. Wore straight through the chainstays. Expensive way to learn about the abrasive properties of mud.
    That sux, sorry to see that! Had it happen on my Ti frame slightly with a wheel going out of true, limped home and it was pretty well polished, but nothing like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbest Known Time View Post
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    Yup. This was with the stock tires on my gravel bike. Wore straight through the chainstays. Expensive way to learn about the abrasive properties of mud.
    Is now when someone stands up to shout, 'steel is real'?


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    That gravel vid is gold Jerry
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    "If the road You followed brought you to this,of what use was the road"?

    "I have no idea what I am talking about but would be happy to share my biased opinions as fact on the matter. "
    Ottime

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    Gravel/Bikepack nerds enter...

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    tried out the GKSK+ and bar on the mellower half of my closest mtb loop, great success

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    Yeah it took a solid week to talk myself down from chucking the frame and swapping all the parts over to something metal. Ibis came through for a replacement though. Sold me a new frame at half off the standard crash replacement cost. ...Or they got me with the same line they use on everyone. Either way, left me really impressed

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    Happened on the road and not on gravel, but the message is the same. Wear your damn helmet! Saved my noggin for sure. Literally no signs of brain injury. Sore neck is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Happened on the road and not on gravel, but the message is the same. Wear your damn helmet! Saved my noggin for sure. Literally no signs of brain injury. Sore neck is all.

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    yikes. glad you are ok.

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    4kí of it this morning

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Happened on the road and not on gravel, but the message is the same. Wear your damn helmet! Saved my noggin for sure. Literally no signs of brain injury. Sore neck is all.

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    Never had a screen name been so relevant

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    Gravel/Bikepack nerds enter...

    Yesterdayís 40+ mile, 4,300í ride was a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peruvian View Post
    Yesterday’s 40+ mile, 4,300’ ride was a blast.

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    Sweet. What color shoes did you go with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Happened on the road and not on gravel, but the message is the same. Wear your damn helmet! Saved my noggin for sure. Literally no signs of brain injury. Sore neck is all.

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    Helmets are good.


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    Awesome pics and rides there MW and Peruvian...
    New bike day yesterday so will be posting more soon!

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    Any opinions on Salsa Warbird or Cutthroat?

    Somehow, my LBS got a billionty gravel bikes in 61.
    Ruled out: Aspero (too road bike), Vault (too $$$), Wilier (too $$$ for spec), Kona (just didnít dig it)...which leaves the two Salsa.

    Cutthroat - looks cool...but I worry if I got it, Iíd keep thinking: I shoulda just got a mtb. And: this is very slow.

    Warbird - like...but worry itís too close to my road bike. But: I do like going fast.

    I think Warbird. Mostly bc Iím not doing anything beyond a day or two...maybe three. Certainly not 7-10days. And prolly wonít get too rowdy...thatís what mtb is for.

    Thoughts? Any other suggestions.


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    I suspect there's logic behind the madness, but I'm too dumb to see it.

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    Know a few people with warbirds and they like them. No personal experience on them, though.

    Itís certainly a little more relaxed than a lot of the more performance oriented bikes.

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    Iíve had a Warbird GRX 600 for a little over a year and love it. Picked up an extra wheelset mounted up with 32c road tires and use it as both my road and gravel bike. As Supermoon said, the geo is relaxed and itís long. Itís not a fast handling bike, but itís rock solid at 40+. The stock tires (Terravail Cannonball) are stiff and slow, I swapped those out for Gravelking SKís. I donít bikepack, but it has a ton of mounts.


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  24. #1224
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    New bike day ride on the Davinci Hatchet. Unbelievable ride. Some parts definitely need an upgrade, but for now will cover as much ground as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by huckbucket View Post
    Sweet. What color shoes did you go with?
    Standard black in SPDs for that ride. I think Iíll put on the flats for a 3 day trip planned later this month.

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