Gravel/Bikepack nerds enter...

[I've seen black diamonds!]

Nice score, ISBD. Time for some clipless pedals.

I have some SPDs but I exploded my old shoes.

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[Peruvian]

Great shots, buttah.

[altasnob]

Decomissioned roads in Rainier park make for good gravel rides.



This was a bike and hike, 4000 ft of gain and 26 combined miles got me to a quite corner of the park.

[Supermoon]

Very nice

[Peruvian]

Is anyone rolling gravel on 'alt' bars?

[huckbucket]

Is anyone rolling gravel on 'alt' bars?

Nope. Also don't rock a mustache and tight jeans.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Is anyone rolling gravel on 'alt' bars?

The second picture is actually one of the best shapes for gravel riding. Basically a Jones bar without the loop. He makes one like that called the Bend H-bar. If you haven’t tried a bar like this you owe it to yourself to try one. It’s better than mtb bars or drop bars of any type. Set up properly they’re the most comfortable bars and you lose no control.


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[I've seen black diamonds!]

Damn that was fun. Should have bought one of these a long time ago.








Time to go shopping for clipless shoes, saddle bag, bigger tires, probably some flared bars, etc. Somebody buy my stuff in gear swap so my wife doesn't kill me...

[Vt-Freeheel]

Good times ^^

I can see for miles and.....

[fool]

Anybody seen the Allied Echo? Looks pretty intriguing (and expensive). I have a buddy that ordered one and he's stoked about it...

https://alliedcycleworks.com/collections/echo

"At the heart of the ECHO’s genetic code is pure unadulterated speed - the ability to transform from a road race thoroughbred to a versatile, agile gravel bike with a simple switch of flip chips at the front and rear dropouts."


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[I've seen black diamonds!]

Anybody seen the Allied Echo? Looks pretty intriguing (and expensive). I have a buddy that ordered one and he's stoked about it...

https://alliedcycleworks.com/collections/echo

"At the heart of the ECHO’s genetic code is pure unadulterated speed - the ability to transform from a road race thoroughbred to a versatile, agile gravel bike with a simple switch of flip chips at the front and rear dropouts."


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I've definitely seen "flip chips" on other bikes. Not sure I've seen them on both ends.


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Anybody seen the Allied Echo? Looks pretty intriguing (and expensive). I have a buddy that ordered one and he's stoked about it...

https://alliedcycleworks.com/collections/echo

"At the heart of the ECHO’s genetic code is pure unadulterated speed - the ability to transform from a road race thoroughbred to a versatile, agile gravel bike with a simple switch of flip chips at the front and rear dropouts."


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I find the whole adjustable geo thing to be kind of disingenuous. I don't know anyone that actually switches their wheelsets with any regularity, so flipping the chips around is even less likely. The geo differences in the two positions are pretty small - not enough for most riders to notice as few people are that sensitive to bike setup.

That said, I think it looks like a nice bike. I think it's actually underpriced compared to the market. Specialized is charging $13,500 for a build spec that Allied is pricing closer to $12,500. Weight, engineering, etc aside - it's just flat out more expensive to make a frame in the US than in quantity overseas. I find that a little surprising.

[joetron]

I’ve got a friend staying in Waterbury, VT for a few days and she’s looking for some good gravel/mixed rides. Any suggestions on rides or resources?


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[Peruvian]

I’ve got a friend staying in Waterbury, VT for a few days and she’s looking for some good gravel/mixed rides. Any suggestions on rides or resources?


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[I've seen black diamonds!]

It's easy to forget I live in a suburb when I'm on my gravel bike, stringing together scenic stretches of dirt and road. Loving this thing.

My body is starting to remember how to hang out on a bike for longer stretches. Looking forward to some rides in the foothills and mountains soon. Want to ride Old Fall River Road in RMNP after they close it to cars for the season. I'll probably need to futz with gearing to make that at all enjoyable.

[mall walker]

flared drops made a yuge difference to me. ritchey beacon comp, I think? wide, lot of flare, shallow drops. made the difference between “any off road is mildly terrifying” to “I’m riding my gravel bike on singletrack now and it’s awesome” (disclaimer that I am a giant beater at biking though)

[jhyatt]

Hey bikepackers I really want to ride the colorado trail next summer. I wanted to do it this summer but didn't get the gear sorted out in time so just did other stuff.
I have a large tallboy v4 and looking for suggestions for frame bag and other stuff. I looked around and think I will be good with frame bag, tailgator style rack, larger backpack (for biking, already have that). i read that a handlebar roll interferes with the cables coming out of the internal feeding?
I go backpacking so have stuff, but it's all bulky and not light because I never really cared before. so looking to get a lighter tent etc. I want one with a floor and fly. planning on using a jetboil.
any tips appreciated as I try to compile gear in time for some shakedown rides.
i started reading online and just didn't want to go down that rabbit hole.
thanks!

[406]

^^^I don't have a ton of nights logged, but have never had problems with handlebar bag on my ripmo.

I would look into one of those racks like evdog has. Or a dropper post compatible bag.

Might want a custom frame bag, to maximize storage. I would suggest as little as possible on backpack.

Do a few overnight trips to get set up dialed. Or I even just do long loaded day rides, if can't get away overnight.

[Iowagriz]

You won't believe this, but a large tall boy framebag was just posted.

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

If that link doesn't work. Bikepacking.net forum

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[Iowagriz]

As for the front bag, longer cables and rotating the brake levers down work well. I use a baryak to car my front bag away from the cables. Maybe the Salsa front cradle would work in your situation.

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[Peruvian]

jhyatt - some considerations:

Front - Salsa Anything cradle or similar will hold the dry bag off your cables. your tent, sleep kit, and cook kit will need to fit.

Frame bag - def consider custom or one built for your FS frame. this is mostly for food and quick access stuff.

Seatpost bag - something dropper compatible is great but will only hold 5-7 liters and you will need to be sure it clears your rear tire when down and your shock is compressed. Consider the Thule Pack n Peddle, Topeak Terra, or other strap on the seatstay rack if you can’t work anything else out.

[jhyatt]

You won't believe this, but a large tall boy framebag was just posted.

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

If that link doesn't work. Bikepacking.net forum

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Thanks. That's for a tallboy 3. I have a 4 and the shock is moved so doubt it will work. I did get excited

[Peruvian]

You won't believe this, but a large tall boy framebag was just posted.

https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink/top...ink_source=app

If that link doesn't work. Bikepacking.net forum

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Hmmm....I wonder if it would fit a Ripley LS???

[Peruvian]

Thanks. That's for a tallboy 3. I have a 4 and the shock is moved so doubt it will work. I did get excited

It looks like the new linkage point actually makes frame bag choice a little easier - https://bikepacking.com/bikes/santa-...allboy-review/

[XtrPickels]

Damn that was fun. Should have bought one of these a long time ago.


Time to go shopping for clipless shoes, saddle bag, bigger tires, probably some flared bars, etc. Somebody buy my stuff in gear swap so my wife doesn't kill me...

Super fun loop, pretty common week-day go to for me and you rarely see people.
This first picture threw me for a bit because I never ride in this direction.