Gravel/Bikepack nerds enter...

[bizarrefaith]

What's the difference between a flat bar gravel bike and a hybrid?

Nothing


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[jamal]

Been doing a lot of climbing lately

[chaka]

I can squeeze 2.1" tires on my bike. That's factory claimed numbers, so I am guessing even some 2.2" would actually fit.

My experience has been the opposite. whatever max tire width a manu claims, reality seems to always be a little narrower. hopefully I'm wrong in your case though! congrats on the new rig!

[buttahflake]

Dudes, less is more! No need to run anything fatter than a 700x38c. Part of the fun is riding crazy shit on skinny ass rubber. 2.1’s? Come on man. All that extra drag on the dirt roads and pavement, fuck no!
Take a Lap

[Peruvian]

There is so much more to tires than width. Casing, tread compound, tread pattern, suppleness, tubeless, etc. all make a serious difference.

[buttahflake]

I’ll make it easy for you, Schwalbe g-one’s in 700x38, tubeless.
Go ride.

[Peruvian]

I’ll make it easy for you, Schwalbe g-one’s in 700x38, tubeless.
Go ride.

That is a solid choice.

[chaka]

That is a solid choice.

x2 that's my go to rubber choice. super low rolling resistance on road, decent durability, traction and nice and supple tubeless. and the 35s are great as a daily commuter tire.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

I think eventually I will pick up a decent 700c wheelset. For now the 650x42 Resolute works great on pavement. Tubeless with the right tire pressure and they move really fast. I'm just mostly curious to see how a drop bar hardtail will feel with those 2.1s.

[kathleenturneroverdrive]

I’ll make it easy for you, Schwalbe g-one’s in 700x38, tubeless.
Go ride.

Have you run the G-one and the GravelKings? I'm mainly wondering if the g-one is faster on pavement

[simple]

That is a solid choice.

I tend to disagree. I had nothing but bad luck with those tires. Moved to Hutchinson and many more miles with no flats or puncture holes. Rolls just as well IMO

[Peruvian]

What do I know...my new Byways are 44mm and kick ass.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

What do I know...my new Byways are 44mm and kick ass.

Sweet!

I rode 20 miles yesterday with the thunder burts. Definitely fun as hell. Rolling resistance is hardly any more at all than the resolutes. It's the wind resistance and rotational mass that's the killer. Once you get up to speed they feel great, but then you do hit a speed limit bombing pavement downhills because of the wind drag.

Of course I PRed the only really chunky dirt/gravel/pothole road. I guess if I was doing a pure all gravel ride with camping stuff on the bike these tires would make more sense? I still can't wrap my head around how TDR racers do 100+ miles a day with XC tires.

I think as I enter into this whole gravel realm I realize that I would still want to do bigger days, go fast, sprint at times, etc. and would rather sacrifice some road comfort for speed. I would go with a Topstone or something similar. I definitely miss the efficiency of carbon going up hill. Weight saving too. 700c and skinnier/smoother. Basically what you guys have been suggesting. Basically my old road bike with an ever so slightly more upright riding position, disc wheels/brakes, and clearance for 38s maybe 40s. Can you tell I have been watching Therabouts movies?

If anyone has a line on a decent 700c disc wheelset 15x100 front 12x124 rear that is tubeless for sale let me know.

[jamal]

I don't really mind the 40mm nanos on the road. Yeah not quite as fast and aero as a narrow slick but I'm fine with just riding them wherever all the time and don't need to bother swapping on, say, the 32mm clement slicks I have in the tire bin. I think the 2.1 nanos are pretty popular for tour divide? I'd probably use something like those or a maxxis aspen etc. My kenda sabers are fast as shit but I wouldn't trust their durability for something like that.

I'm thinking about a more modern cx bike, butnot like a "gravel" bike as I actually race cross. Just having a little longer and slacker bike and hydro discs will go a long way on those rougher, steeper descents. Probably a super x, maybe a major jake, outside option orbea terra. This color scheme is kinda neat

https://www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles...terra-m20-d-1x

They do market that as more of a gravel bike than cx race but the geo is pretty much identical to a super x so I could flip a coin. Well, actually comes down to cost and I can get a cannondale for a lot less.

Anyway, mtb first, I don't need to worry about a cx bike for months and who knows how much of a race season is even going to happen.

Oh, next year's topstone carbon has 650b wheels and a lefty ocho. Kinda makes sense as a slightly less goofy replacement for the slate and that rear end pivot thing claims to have up to 30mm of travel. Not sure how far the fork is going to move, I'd guess in the 30-50mm range.

[S.B.]

I'm looking to get something cheap to ride road/gravel/dirt roads when mtb trails are wet or closed. I'm looking at this bike here, does anyone have any input on it? I'm trying to get something decently cheap that will last a while

https://vermont.craigslist.org/bik/d...125023388.html



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[CantDog]

Still going strong after 11 years of thrashing.


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[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Still going strong after 11 years of thrashing.


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Damn that is a heady rig right there.

[CantDog]

Damn that is a heady rig right there.

Waiting on the wheels for the Knolly Cache and a few other pieces and then the Igleheart will wear some wide slicks and be my ‘road’ bike.

[frorider]

Post the finished cache pics eh? I was surprised it took so long for a drop bar bike aimed at shortish stem lengths.

[Iowagriz]

Revelate Designs bags are 25% off at REI right now. Not sure if that was shared earlier.

https://www.rei.com/search?q=revelate+designs


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[jamal]

75mi, 5200 ft
35mi on dirt
1 apple pie lara bar
4 salted watermelon shot blocks
1 giant cookie
1 katarina nash edition pb banana clif bar
1 bag haribo peaches
3 waters
1 wally
1 draughtworks hand rolled ipa
1 strava kom

[Dromond]

I used some 35mm G-One tires for the first time yesterday and I was really impressed. I ran really low pressure 45-50psi, and was surprised at how comfortable they were on gravel for being such a narrow tire. (Mostly on fine gravel - rough/chunky gravel was not great.) Somehow it seemed more comfortable than a 2.2 XC tire at 25psi and rolled really fast. I assume it has to do with a really flexible casing. They are slower on pavement but not insanely slow which is nice.

[buttahflake]

Nice one jamal!
I was out on my gravel rig today, perfect weather, finally. Been a rugged spring around these parts.
Love my g-ones. 700x38 at 37psi. Light Bicycle carbon rims, DT Swiss 240’s with DT bladed spokes, it’s a nice bike.
From today in Westminster West, VT.

[Whiteroom_Guardian]

Nice one jamal!
I was out on my gravel rig today, perfect weather, finally. Been a rugged spring around these parts.
Love my g-ones. 700x38 at 37psi. Light Bicycle carbon rims, DT Swiss 240’s with DT bladed spokes, it’s a nice bike.
From today in Westminster West, VT.

Man that's a sweet rig!

Switched back to the smaller tires on the Ragley. Heading south in search of blazing temps and empty BLM roads.

[Peruvian]

Just bought a Relevate Designs Tangle half frame bag from REI. Great price at $67. Ordered online, same day curbside pickup. It fits like custom on my size 56 Sutra LTD.