Smith Beta?

**Phall** · 02-23-2023, 11:39 AM

Bumpity bump, anyone draw? no luck here.

**teleee** · 02-23-2023, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Phall

Bumpity bump, anyone draw? no luck here.

I pulled an early August date- total gamble that we can hit monsoon season along with a drop in irrigation demand. It happened last time for us so we will see.
I figure it’s totally worth the gamble. If not I will go fish the Beaverhead.

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**swimmy** · 02-26-2023, 08:50 AM

Just posting some Smith stoke from my last trip in '19.

**Phall** · 02-26-2023, 08:57 AM

That’s crows foot, right? I think that’s an underrated camp spot

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**swimmy** · 02-26-2023, 09:54 AM

Wow, great eye Phall. You are correct.

Love that camp. Nice and open, great place to chill and catch the sunset.

And there is a pretty nice swing run right in front of camp.

**Phall** · 02-23-2024, 07:52 AM

Anyone score this year? Struck out. Mixed feelings on the new draw system but I get it.

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**Norseman** · 02-23-2024, 07:55 AM

No success across my fam

**Phall** · 02-23-2024, 07:58 AM

Anyone score? Struck out. The new draw is a bummer for Non-res but I totally get it as we play this game in hunting all the time.

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**new yabyum** · 02-23-2024, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Phall

Anyone score? Struck out. The new draw is a bummer for Non-res but I totally get it as we play this game in hunting all the time.

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I'm now 0/20 for the Smith, the whole family struck out. Does Montana still do cancellations?

**Phall** · 02-23-2024, 09:16 AM

Smith River Reservation Line
Beginning on Monday, March 4, 2024 you may call the Smith River Reservation Line at 406-454-5861 Monday through Friday between 8 a.m. and 12 noon Mountain Time to:

Request any remaining launch dates that may be available

Pick up a cancelled launch date

Cancel a launch date

Non res is now only 10% of tags, and if you were unsuccessful you now have a preference point and its a point based draw moving forward.

**new yabyum** · 02-23-2024, 05:48 PM

Thanks Phall, great thing to search for w/morning coffee. We're in Driggs so pretty damn close.

**Phall** · 02-23-2024, 05:53 PM

I’d imagine we’ll see some cancellations due to low water later in the season.

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**teleee** · 02-27-2024, 12:10 PM

Tough blow for the Smith River with the Montana Supreme Courts decision to allow the mine to move forward.

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**Norseman** · 02-27-2024, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by teleee

Tough blow for the Smith River with the Montana Supreme Courts decision to allow the mine to move forward.

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water use lawsuit still stands in the way. sure hope the project gets blocked.

**yeahman** · 02-27-2024, 01:57 PM

I did the Smith years ago but gave up on the permit process. IMO the best option is to wait for a year with good late summer rain and jump on it after permit/irrigation season.

**teleee** · 02-27-2024, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by yeahman

I did the Smith years ago but gave up on the permit process. IMO the best option is to wait for a year with good late summer rain and jump on it after permit/irrigation season.

Shhhh!

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**stealurface831** · 02-27-2024, 02:58 PM

Goddamnit man, this really sucks to hear, on top of what will be a tough season looking forward.

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**stealurface831** · 03-09-2024, 08:54 AM

Figured I’d be another year older when I did until bud texts me saying he drew and to hop on. April 27 launch. Should be spicy. TR to come.

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**Phall** · 03-09-2024, 05:23 PM

Have put on twice around then. Fishing is hit or miss but with snowpack this year it could be ok, won’t float it with a raft below 220

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**stealurface831** · 03-09-2024, 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Phall

Have put on twice around then. Fishing is hit or miss but with snowpack this year it could be ok, won’t float it with a raft below 220

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hardboat okay around 450?

**Phall** · 03-09-2024, 05:59 PM

I’m not the best resource there. It was either 250 or 1200 when I did it. 🤣

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**stealurface831** · 03-09-2024, 06:06 PM

i'm trying to go back and compare snowpack and flow totals from years past. not wishing this for snowfall and water's sake going into summer, but it seems like there is a chance that 4/27 could actually be post-runoff, at least the brunt of it.