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    You win KQ.

    NH is very flat.
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    the homeless problem has nothing to do with being "homeless"
    politicians and other idiots want you to belive they can solve the homeless problem with tax dollars and a magic wand by giving people a place to live

    being homeless is the end result of a society that does not give a shit
    mental illness is the biggest driver, as a society we give lip service, provide a hot line to call, and other bullshit to pretend that we really care about someone
    until we start addressing health care and mental health on a large scale we will continue on the current path

    drug and alcohol addiction is the other major force
    very few people fully understand addiction and the way it works, its easy to label someone an addict, but answering the why and providing the proper help is the hard part of the equation
    treatment is the wrong way to look at it, you are never going to treat someone, you can help them though

    all these problems are going to get much worse in every city and small town
    we are really really good at putting blinders on and pretending it doesn't exist

    denver right now has two waring factions, one wants to continue with a camping ban the other wants to remove the camping ban
    They are raising hundreds of thousands of dollars to fight for what they believe in
    this is the political society we have created, where we throw millions of dollars around to prove a point
    if some of that money these two sides are pissing away was used to provide drug, alcohol, and mental health services we'd be doing much better
    but instead it's easier to run ad campaigns and hire consultants to spew endless bullshit

    I recently spent some time with two individuals trying to stay sober, they were wacked out on methadone when we met, in one instant they would be totally coherent and the next they would be nodding off and drooling
    it was very disturbing, the idea that either of these two people are going to stay sober or live long meaningful lives was worthless, but I wish them well

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    You win KQ.

    NH is very flat.
    It's not a contest! I'm just saying that's what I experience. Come on.....besides the "average" is what has occurred over years. I'm sure it's shitty to be homeless no matter the temps.
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    Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    treatment is the wrong way to look at it, you are never going to treat someone, you can help them though
    Watch that video of "Travis"-does he appear to be someone who wants to be "helped"..? What to do with that character, is leaving him on the downtown street to shoot up in front of everyone and cause problems the best/only option?







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    Quote Originally Posted by fastfred View Post
    the homeless problem has nothing to do with being "homeless"
    politicians and other idiots want you to belive they can solve the homeless problem with tax dollars and a magic wand by giving people a place to live
    Well - it sorta can be. But the "place to live" would be a mental institution (for a large portion of that population). And nobody wants to talk about mental institutions any more.

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    Where's Rudy G. when you need him? He cleaned up the squeegee people and the like back in the early 90's of NYC. I'm sure Seattle would welcome him with open arms and all. Or maybe not.
    "We don't beat the reaper by living longer, we beat the reaper by living well and living fully." - Randy Pausch

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTV View Post
    I thought it was warmer than that..Your average highs/lows don't relect those cold snaps? You Jan average high/low is 41/29, how can it below 20 for weeks on end?ANYWAYS u never see tent people except for the outdoorsy folks winter-camping in the Mts
    It isn't, KQ spews a lot of shit about how hard life is out on the hobby farm.
    Set my compass North, I got Winter in my blood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    Where's Rudy G. when you need him? He cleaned up the squeegee people and the like back in the early 90's of NYC. I'm sure Seattle would welcome him with open arms and all. Or maybe not.
    If Rudy G turned up in Seattle our city council would probably pass a resolution to have him flung off the top of the space needle.

    Hopefully they would hold a lottery for all of us who would volunteer to fling him.

    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    KQ spews a lot of shit about how hard life is out on the hobby farm.
    Easy does it tiger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glademaster View Post
    It isn't, KQ spews a lot of shit about how hard life is out on the hobby farm.
    You're right. I really have nothing to complain about. Got a roof over my head that doesn't leak. Heat in the winter and AC in the summer with a fridge full of food and money coming in. My life, and probably everyone's on here, is paradise compared to those living on the street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTV View Post
    Watch that video of "Travis"-does he appear to be someone who wants to be "helped"..? What to do with that character, is leaving him on the downtown street to shoot up in front of everyone and cause problems the best/only option?
    ship his ass to NE to be *cured*
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    Another way to think about addiction.
    https://www.ted.com/talks/johann_har...ction_is_wrong

    I don't think Meth and Heroin can be treated the same way. Meth seems to be a place humans don't come back from.

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    When i read that chart, I feel like "lost my job" should sorta be rolled up into category two of drug addiction. You lost your job because you are a drug addict.
    Now that being said, drugs aside, I see most homeless people as mentally ill. When we used to institutionalize mentally ill people it was deemed cruel and to be honest most of the facilities probably were,, but the answer probably shouln't have been to dump them on the streets either. I have a cousin with a true schizophrenic kid. The problem is he is turning 21 soon and their are no more "Programs" for him. In his youth he was essentitally cared for by the state and social works. Soon he will be turned out into the world. I have no doubt he will wind up homeless since his father is older, his mother is dying of cancer and his siblings cant handle him.
    That being said, homeless encampements and street needles and shit everywhere is also a public health problem and degrades the quality of life for the 99% of others and has to be addressed as well.
    I have no idea what the answer is, but Seattle is not doing it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    ship his ass to NE to be *cured*
    A week or two in Londonderry will straighten him out. That dude will come back to Seattle as clean as a whistle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ncskier View Post
    When i read that chart, I feel like "lost my job" should sorta be rolled up into category two of drug addiction. You lost your job because you are a drug addict. .
    I'm pretty certain that people lose their jobs for other reasons than addiction.

    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    A week or two in Londonderry will straighten him out. .
    Northern Ireland is lovely this time of year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    If Rudy G turned up in Seattle our city council would probably pass a resolution to have him flung off the top of the space needle.

    Hopefully they would hold a lottery for all of us who would volunteer to fling him.
    I'd buy a ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    Specifically, what about that KOMO story is false or biased?
    Couldn't watch it. Busy volunteering today. The bias there is institutional.
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    you watch too much TV, david

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveVt View Post
    Another way to think about addiction.
    https://www.ted.com/talks/johann_har...ction_is_wrong

    I don't think Meth and Heroin can be treated the same way. Meth seems to be a place humans don't come back from.
    My older sister did meth during college, she used it regularly to keep her awake to study. She graduated with honors, and had a long career in banking, raised two kids, and still maintains a home. I don't think she's used it since college.

    It's not impossible to return, just very difficult. It requires a goal that is stronger than the desire to avoid one's feeling of powerlessness in the world.
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    San Francisco North is not that bad.

    So long as you're a keyboard jockey or VC/Finance Asshole.

    For everyone else both cities are dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasputin View Post
    My older sister did meth during college, she used it regularly to keep her awake to study.
    WTF? People never cease to amaze me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasputin View Post
    My older sister did meth during college, she used it regularly to keep her awake to study.
    They were out of Diet Coke at the commissary?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttahflake View Post
    I could give a fuck about junkies dying. Just donít be sleeping on the street. We donít have homeless shitdicks walking around doing homeless shitdick stuff. Itís better that way.
    Your state has the 2nd highest rate of mortality from opiods and you're good with that? Might not be visible but it's not really going to lead to a sustainable community or economy.
    New state motto: is going to get changed from "Live free or die" to "Shoot up, then die".

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    Seattle is dying

    The underlying problem and general lack of sympathy is probably because these people made a bad choice out of weakness. Plenty of people get a script for hydrocodone and when it runs out you suck it up and feel like shit for a few days and move on. The ďweakĒ canít suck it up and make a conscious decision to break the law and then get caught up in it. Iíve been addicted to opioids.

    I should also note I lost my best friend to fentanyl 3 years ago this month. And Iím still pissed at him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbssux View Post
    Your state has the 2nd highest rate of mortality from opiods and you're good with that? Might not be visible but it's not really going to lead to a sustainable community or economy.
    New state motto: is going to get changed from "Live free or die" to "Shoot up, then die".
    But he doesn't have to use seatbelts.

    Or something...
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