Seattle is dying

[DaveTV]

Stumbled across this below - wow I had no idea. (Disclaimer: I have never been to Seattle although it is on my "short list" of places to visit.) Is this story exaggerated?

https://komonews.com/news/local/komo...I12Zcu9JrFWV3A

[Timberridge]

If it is I blame Nirvana.

...and Starbucks

[KQ]

I left 10 years ago because it was not longer the city in which I was born & raised.


My perspective is one of a native who lived there 40+ years so maybe I'm more cynical than others who are younger residents but I would have to say that the city has changed an IMO not for the better. I'm afraid the Seattle of my youth is and will be no more.

My family immigrated to Seattle in the 1930s. I've got great pictures of my Grandfather riding his horses down Greenwood Avenue. He and his brothers had a car park garage in downtown Seattle where freeway park now stands. I have so many great memories of growing up there, riding my horse on the beach at Carkeek Park, going to the Bite of Seattle and Hydro races at Greenlake, being able to drive from north Seattle to downtown in 20mins, not having to lock your doors and walking to school or the corner drug store, the local park with my bothers & friends without a worry (or riding our bikes everywhere).

I suppose it different everywhere now, not just a Seattle issue. After all, it's not 1970 anymore.

[scrambledbacon]

https://www.city-journal.org/seattle...f7aMF6RVDXmEiI

Follow the money
The "homeless service industry" has been monetized

[PNWbrit]

The homeless(ness) problem in Seattle is huge.

Seattle is not dying.

It's absolutely changing too fast to keep up properly or healthily.. housing, transport, schools etc.

It has always been a boom town though. And nearly always poorly governed.

(only been here 20 years - this week in fact - so others will have far more perspective on it)

[Timberridge]

And nearly always poorly governed.

Perhaps Howard Schultz should start there?

[PNWbrit]

Perhaps Howard Schultz should start there?

Apparently he has a basketball issue here.

[AK47bp]

Place is totally dead.

Best to just head to Portland.

[Danno]

The homeless(ness) problem in Seattle is huge.

Seattle is not dying.

It's absolutely changing too fast to keep up properly or healthily.. housing, transport, schools etc.

It has always been a boom town though. And nearly always poorly governed.

(only been here 20 years - this week in fact - so others will have far more perspective on it)

I left over 25 years ago, and I would have said the same thing based on my time there (only 2 years, 1990-92).

[shroom]

i know you don’t want change

but nothing is ever what it used to be

grab the rope, hoist yourself up

and drift like ants, in hole’s water

[Timberridge]

should we send Bellevue the memo?

If those planes keep crashing...

[KQ]

Apparently he has a basketball issue here.

Don't get me started.

[Svengali]

[KQ]

Lived out that way. Remember that sign fondly.

[Timberridge]

Aren't you getting the Sockeye's in 2020?

[Svengali]

[Timberridge]

There can only be one Kraken and she's ours.

[AK47bp]

Shhh....

Dammit.

[PNWbrit]

That's funny.

I left over 25 years ago, and I would have said the same thing based on my time there (only 2 years, 1990-92).

When we moved here there was book a (like I said it was a while back) we relied on somewhat - A Guide to Seattle Newcomers - almost like a Frommer's travel guide but aimed at living in the city rather than being there on vacation.

Most of it consisted of bemoaning how Microsoft and Starbucks had already ruined it... Early editions no doubt said the same about the Gold Rush, Logging, Boeing.....

When I go back to London these days I see a similar amount "Dying" I certainly don't feel at home in my home town now... I do wonder how I'd have felt about those changes if I'd stayed.

[jackattack]

i know you don’t want change

but nothing is ever what it used to be

grab the rope, hoist yourself up

and drift like ants, in hole’s water

Exactly. Nothing remains the same.

[PNWbrit]

Londonistan has changed, but in a different way.

Classy.. same youtuber is also hosting a documentary entitled "Waffen SS they fought for Europe".

before the edit anyway.... original was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6mxshAhJtw

[dunfree]

Most of it consisted of bemoaning how Microsoft and Starbucks had already ruined it... Early editions no doubt said the same about the Gold Rush, Logging, Boeing.....

First edition was an oral guidebook in Lushootseed. nothing stays the same; but changes benefit some groups more than others.

one thing that isn't dying is "XYZ liberal city is dying" viral media.

[DaveTV]

Classy.. same youtuber is also hosting a documentary entitled "Waffen SS they fought for Europe".

before the edit anyway.... original was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6mxshAhJtw

Shoot the messenger. Give us your take on what has changed in London why doncha =ANYWAYS You brought up London,not me. This is about Seattle and that documentary produced by a local Seattle news channel.

[PNWbrit]

Shoot the messenger.

Good people on both sides argument?

Give us your take on what has changed in London why doncha

Where your Nazi friend's film was taken has been like a middle eastern neighborhood for decades. Where I'm from in London had been a neighborhod of Caribbean immigrants for even longer... there are areas of london that are Jewish there were ones that were Huguenot French. People from all over the world have always lived there.in large numbers. The recent changes in that regard I notice most are more Europeans in London.

Vast amounts of new construction particularly the skyscrapers in the city center mean the character of the city has changed massively, that really gets my equilibrium off whack... does even when I see a modern London skyline in a movie. It's even busier, more crowded than it was, Big new infrastructure projects... a new bridge across the Thames right where my office view was.

You brought up London,not me. This is about Seattle and that documentary produced by a local Seattle news channel.

The problems pointed out in it are not unique to Seattle.

London also has a similar homelessness issue.. caused by similar things as here and causing similar problems.

[Garbowski]

The urban decay and general lawlessness that is tolerated is pretty shocking, and that's from someone who grew up with plenty of gunfire in Chicago. There's an attitude as if it's a badge of honor of a 'real city' to have junkies and petty crime or something. Property crime rate here is ridiculously high compared to other US cities. Just got another email about needles on the school playground today.