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  1. #1
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    Seattle is dying

    Stumbled across this below - wow I had no idea. (Disclaimer: I have never been to Seattle although it is on my "short list" of places to visit.) Is this story exaggerated?

    https://komonews.com/news/local/komo...I12Zcu9JrFWV3A







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    If it is I blame Nirvana.

    ...and Starbucks
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    I left 10 years ago because it was not longer the city in which I was born & raised.


    My perspective is one of a native who lived there 40+ years so maybe I'm more cynical than others who are younger residents but I would have to say that the city has changed an IMO not for the better. I'm afraid the Seattle of my youth is and will be no more.

    My family immigrated to Seattle in the 1930s. I've got great pictures of my Grandfather riding his horses down Greenwood Avenue. He and his brothers had a car park garage in downtown Seattle where freeway park now stands. I have so many great memories of growing up there, riding my horse on the beach at Carkeek Park, going to the Bite of Seattle and Hydro races at Greenlake, being able to drive from north Seattle to downtown in 20mins, not having to lock your doors and walking to school or the corner drug store, the local park with my bothers & friends without a worry (or riding our bikes everywhere).

    I suppose it different everywhere now, not just a Seattle issue. After all, it's not 1970 anymore.
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    https://www.city-journal.org/seattle...f7aMF6RVDXmEiI

    Follow the money
    The "homeless service industry" has been monetized

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    The homeless(ness) problem in Seattle is huge.

    Seattle is not dying.

    It's absolutely changing too fast to keep up properly or healthily.. housing, transport, schools etc.

    It has always been a boom town though. And nearly always poorly governed.

    (only been here 20 years - this week in fact - so others will have far more perspective on it)
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    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    And nearly always poorly governed.
    Perhaps Howard Schultz should start there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Perhaps Howard Schultz should start there?
    Apparently he has a basketball issue here.
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

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    growing fast indeed but FKNA it’s not poor or dying.
    tolerance to the homeless crisis could end and they
    are forced to migrate back to portland, no big deal.
    like kq mentioned, it’s not 1970. the lights are on
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Apparently he has a basketball issue here.
    enough of one that he doesn’t vote
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    Place is totally dead.

    Best to just head to Portland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    growing fast indeed but FKNA itís not poor or dying.
    tolerance to the homeless crisis could end and they
    are forced to migrate back to portland, no big deal.
    like kq mentioned, itís not 1970. the lights are on
    Itís worse down here. Oregon has the second highest rate of unsheltered homeless behind California.

    https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/12/1...ederal-report/

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    The homeless(ness) problem in Seattle is huge.

    Seattle is not dying.

    It's absolutely changing too fast to keep up properly or healthily.. housing, transport, schools etc.

    It has always been a boom town though. And nearly always poorly governed.

    (only been here 20 years - this week in fact - so others will have far more perspective on it)
    I left over 25 years ago, and I would have said the same thing based on my time there (only 2 years, 1990-92).
    "fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Place is totally dead.
    should we send Bellevue the memo?
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    i know you donít want change

    but nothing is ever what it used to be

    grab the rope, hoist yourself up

    and drift like ants, in holeís water

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    Quote Originally Posted by flowing alpy View Post
    should we send Bellevue the memo?
    If those planes keep crashing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    Apparently he has a basketball issue here.

    Don't get me started.
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    Scientists now have decisive molecular evidence that humans and chimpanzees once had a common momma and that this lineage had previously split from monkeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengali View Post
    Lived out that way. Remember that sign fondly.
    Kindness is a bridge between all people

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    Be percentage of total population

    WA 7.5 million people with 10.6k unsheltered homeless -> .14%

    OR 4.1 million with 9k unsheltered > .21%

    CA 39.5 million with 89.5k unsheltered > .22%

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    Aren't you getting the Sockeye's in 2020?
    "timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang

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    Scientists now have decisive molecular evidence that humans and chimpanzees once had a common momma and that this lineage had previously split from monkeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timberridge View Post
    Aren't you getting the Sockeye's in 2020?
    Krakens still up for debate
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    There can only be one Kraken and she's ours.
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    Shhh....

    Dammit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Svengali View Post
    That's funny.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danno View Post
    I left over 25 years ago, and I would have said the same thing based on my time there (only 2 years, 1990-92).
    When we moved here there was book a (like I said it was a while back) we relied on somewhat - A Guide to Seattle Newcomers - almost like a Frommer's travel guide but aimed at living in the city rather than being there on vacation.

    Most of it consisted of bemoaning how Microsoft and Starbucks had already ruined it... Early editions no doubt said the same about the Gold Rush, Logging, Boeing.....

    When I go back to London these days I see a similar amount "Dying" I certainly don't feel at home in my home town now... I do wonder how I'd have felt about those changes if I'd stayed.
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