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    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    it does seem crazy, but 20-30 years ago wasn't it just called speed and not much was known about it?
    Maybe. The crazy thing to me is that people actually take drugs so they can study more. What a waste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTV View Post
    No, your current "solution" is to put him back on the street "over and over" instead of keeping him in custody and forcing rehab and treatment upon him. Again,watch the video and see how Rhode Island would deal with him and his ilk.
    we need widespread mental institutions to keep them off the streets and out of jail

    Quote Originally Posted by muted View Post
    it does seem crazy, but 20-30 years ago wasn't it just called speed and not much was known about it?
    playboy did a great article years ago about the rise of meth and speed, how it was created and came out about in the 1980's, it was pretty good
    meth originally wasn't that bad, it was up there with coke, but as we created laws to make it more difficult to get the ingredients to make meth, people found other ways to make it which created a shittier more unhealthy drug, typical gov't where you make all these laws hoping for a solution but you end up making things worse in long run

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    Drug & alcohol abuse is the problem, not Drug & Alcohol use.
    Yup. The older I get, the more convinced I become that we need to at a *minimum* decriminalize all of it. Preferable would be to actually legalize ALL of it.

    I don't know what the War on Drug costs us, but move ALL of those $$ from the "war" to treatment, etc.

    The OVERWHELMING evidence tells us that prohibition simply doesn't work.

    Yet we continue to bash our heads against that wall... hoping in vain that maybe some day it WILL work.

    It won't.

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    I dont think full scale localization of things like meth and heroin is the solution but heroin clinics where addicts can get a legal fix without stealing anyone's shit to pay the scumbag dealer would be a great start...

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    Buttahflake will be along shortly to propose lacing all heroin with carfentanyl as a solution to the opiod crisis.
    Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4matic View Post
    Adderrall is a cute name for meth.
    Conversely, meth is a scary name for Adderall. Millions of people have experimented with meth and quit. It's a small minority that become addicted, and a smaller minority still that become the stereotypical toothless tweaker. Not that I am suggesting the anyone go use street meth, but there are serious parallels between meth and 80's crack hysteria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Maybe. The crazy thing to me is that people actually take drugs so they can study more. What a waste.
    it is a waste of drugs, they should be used for fun.

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    If you buy powder drugs on the street, you are playing Russian roulette. Donít buy powder drugs, itís really that easy. Whaa, Iím addicted to opioids, sack up and go cold turkey, it wonít kill you. Buying drugs on the street will.
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    So much ignorance with so few words. Congrats.
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    How is that ignorant? The only drug that will kill you, going cold turkey, is alcohol. Wake the fuck up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtngirl79 View Post
    I dont think full scale localization of things like meth and heroin is the solution but heroin clinics where addicts can get a legal fix without stealing anyone's shit to pay the scumbag dealer would be a great start...
    We have to get rid of the incentive of huge $$ due to prohibition, IMO. And I really don't see a reasonable way to do that other than legalize and regulating ALL of it.

    I grew up in the heart of "Just Say No" and I know a LOT of people that have trouble considering anything other than... well, just saying "no" - I just don't think, as humans, that it will ever actually work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dunfree View Post
    petty crime is annoying
    Unless it's YOUR business being ruined, then it's more than "annoying".. See the woman who owns the grocery store in the video who is besieged by repeat shoplifters that the police/system can't/won't do anything about. she has called 911 more than 300 times and nothing is done. The perps just walk in, help themselves to her goods and laugh at her when she confronts them. How can this be allowed to go on?







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    Quote Originally Posted by buttahflake View Post
    How is that ignorant?
    Because it doesn't work. And we have decades of evidence that support that. It just doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveTV View Post
    Unless it's YOUR business being ruined, then it's more than "annoying".. See the woman who owns the grocery store in the video who is besieged by repeat shoplifters that the police/system can't/won't do anything about. she has called 911 more than 300 times and nothing is done. The perps just walk in, help themselves to her goods and laugh at her when she confronts them. How can this be allowed to go on?
    I agree. You can't just shrug your shoulders and let a certain segment of society do whatever they want without repercussions. Laws need to be enforced uniformly.

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    What doesnít work? Quit doing drugs, problem solved. Fuck opening clinics to support these losers. Smoke weed, and eat cheeseburgers!
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    Quote Originally Posted by skaredshtles View Post
    Yup. The older I get, the more convinced I become that we need to at a *minimum* decriminalize all of it. Preferable would be to actually legalize ALL of it.

    I don't know what the War on Drug costs us, but move ALL of those $$ from the "war" to treatment, etc.

    The OVERWHELMING evidence tells us that prohibition simply doesn't work.

    Yet we continue to bash our heads against that wall... hoping in vain that maybe some day it WILL work.

    It won't.
    Yes Simple prohibition doesn't work.

    It does NOT follow that decriminalization is the solution. Not at fucking all. Now, if you are a libertarian and making a decriminalization as philosophical/moral argument, that's fine, but do not pretend that the logical solution to addiction and homelessness is simple decriminalization.

    Solutions should attack the root causes. The root cause of addiction and homelessness is not that heroin, crack and meth are illegal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttahflake View Post
    What doesnít work? Quit doing drugs
    This. This doesn't work. We have overwhelming evidence to support my assertion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    I agree. You can't just shrug your shoulders and let a certain segment of society do whatever they want without repercussions. Laws need to be enforced uniformly.
    shoplifting is a business in the US; people aren't shoplifting baby formula for their kid, they are shoplifting it for resale.

    just like the outrage industry is a business in the us. people make videos so people can get outraged and watch more outrage TV.

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    Seattle is dying

    How is that possible? Just quit being a pussy, sack up and go cold turkey. Why would you submit yerself to a life on the street, doing horrible things to score some dirty powder drugs? They shouldnít be coddled, they should get a swift kick in the ass. Treating it like disease is just plain stupid. Addiction is not a disease, itís a weakness. Get tough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttahflake View Post
    How is that possible? Just quit being a pussy, sack up and go cold turkey. Why would you submit yerself to a life on the street, doing horrible things to score some dirty powder drugs? They shouldnít be coddled, they should get a swift kick in the ass. Treat it like disease is just plain stupid. Addiction is not a disease, itís a weakness. Get tough.
    Please... carry on. Or take a lap. Or whatever it is you do.


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    How are you this dumb? Itís just this simple, it really is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttahflake View Post
    How are you this dumb? Itís just this simple, it really is.
    You know, you're right. Thanks for changing my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buttahflake View Post
    How is that possible? Just quit being a pussy, sack up and go cold turkey. Why would you submit yerself to a life on the street, doing horrible things to score some dirty powder drugs? They shouldn’t be coddled, they should get a swift kick in the ass. Treating it like disease is just plain stupid. Addiction is not a disease, it’s a weakness. Get tough.
    Yeah, just throw them all in jail, that'll fix this! We definitely haven't been doing that en masse for the last 30 years

    JFC

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    Seattle is dying

    Is obesity a disease also?
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    Seattle is dying

    Quote Originally Posted by Dantheman View Post
    Yeah, just throw them all in jail, that'll fix this! We definitely haven't been doing that en masse for the last 30 years

    JFC
    We throw who in jail? Not the rich white kids who suffer from this Ďdiseaseí. Letís switch it up, no more black people getting hassled by the cops. Time for prep school Chad to face the music.
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