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Thread: Teen ski- what after mantra JR
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03-16-2019, 06:26 AM #1
Teen ski- what after mantra JR
Kids been on the Jr for years
What is the next step?
Oldest demo’d a few skis
They were ok until the faction 3.0 which he loved and felt at home on
So . . .
Anything 160ish playful poppy etc that comes to mind?. . .
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03-16-2019, 07:14 AM #2
Check out Liberty Origin series. Think they would fit the description
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03-16-2019, 07:34 AM #3Registered User
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If he liked the faction 3.0, why not just go with that? Too $$$? If so, what's your budget?
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03-16-2019, 09:16 AM #4
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03-16-2019, 09:48 AM #5
My god son is currently on the Cochise Jr and it works well for him. Takes a bit more effort to drive the tip than the Mantra, but he is not a large or strong kid and has no problem with them. Rides them daily. Ice and pow.
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03-16-2019, 10:04 AM #6Registered User
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Teen ski- what after mantra JR
Maybe the mini bent chetlers? I’m not sure if they have it in 160
Edit: They do have 163s.
Here’s a link: https://shop.atomic.com/en-us/produc...63-aa3305.html
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03-16-2019, 11:39 PM #7
Height and weight? My kid was on Mantra Jr, Shiro Jr, and Völkl One. He skipped the 160-something range as he grew a ton last summer. Now he skis Devastators, Enforcer 100’s, and Billy Goats. That jump got expensive.
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03-17-2019, 05:37 AM #8
Kid rips
Smooth carver, pow slayer. Getting sendy now.
95 pounds, 4.5 feet
Demo’d Santa Anna/enforcer. Did well. But then on the faction 3 he was all smiles.
Just looking for ideas of what to get on spring discount or used.. . .
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03-17-2019, 05:42 AM #9
Hit up ptex to see what he has left. Crazy solid deals but probably low on stock now
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03-17-2019, 07:22 AM #10Registered User
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Blizzard Rustler Team Pro
It was a one and done for 18/19
It’s a 164 Rustler 10 in a different graphic for less money. On sale if you can find it would be a great deal for an adult ski.
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03-17-2019, 10:00 AM #11
My kid was on same ski and had 152 confessions for pow. Once those felt small, he demo'd Sally lux 92s in 161 (not by choice) and loved them. He doesn't care about the graphics.
Another buddy has on3p Jesse's in same size and loves (more centered stance).
He is 5'3" 100lb, and aggressive but not perfect form. Probably start men's skis next year.
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03-17-2019, 10:49 AM #12
Just get some red ones.
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03-17-2019, 12:54 PM #13
2018 Faction Candide 2.0 Jr. rawks. Comes in a 145, 155, and 165, at 95mm underfoot. My 10 year old son is on the 145, and is still pretty ecstatic about them. I've taken him everywhere this year, and on them he's been hucking ~10 ft cliffs, bombing moguls and steep tree runs and moguled out steep tree runs, and tearing up waist deep (to me) powder with finesse. I think he's leveled up quite a bit on them. Enough to make me start feeling self-conscious about my age.
If you want something wider, the grownup version is available in a 166 and 102 underfoot.
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03-17-2019, 01:40 PM #14
I really like the suggestion of a women’s ski. The issue becomes the weight of the skier...too heavy for a kids’ ski but not heavy enough for an adult unisex ski (in most cases).
My kid complained about his Shiro getting pushed around in heavy or variable snow. Getting a short adult length helped a ton making that go away. The core was thinker and ski was just more stable all the way around.In constant pursuit of the perfect slarve...
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03-17-2019, 02:17 PM #15
My son loved moment PB&J‘s After retiring is Junior skis
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03-17-2019, 03:29 PM #16
Scott Scrapper 95 or the 95W
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03-19-2019, 09:11 AM #17Registered User
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i'm in the same dilemma - my guy is 12 80 lbs soaking wet and 5 ft, very smooth and rips, he's on 4FRT 137s this year and they look ridiculously small for him these days, these K2 Mindbender Jr Team look like they could be a great ski though no deals for now, like that idea of the Blizzard Russler Team Pro anyone have their kids on Armada Tantrum?
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08-31-2023, 02:26 PM #18
Bump. Looking for a pair of AM skis for an aggressive 14 year old, 5'6" 130 lbs. Was previously on Mantra jr's and Rossi Black Ops jr (160). Skis a lot of bumps and steeps, 99% off piste. Any updated suggestions? Would Line Sick Day 104 be a good option? Seeing some good labor day deals.
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09-01-2023, 08:11 AM #19Registered User
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My opinion (worth it's weight) is to get that kid on an adult ski if he's an aggressive skier. So many options out there, I'd probably demo a few skis with him to find his preferences. I like long rocker lines for off piste skiing and a bit of camber underfoot. Maybe a bit lighter of a ski for a younger kid. Immediately, K2 Mindbender and Reckoner come to mind. Pick the one that clicks with him. Waist width depends on how much soft snow you ski. 100-ish should do it all pretty well (except ice). Mindbender is more of a driver and Reckoner is more playful. Both are really common around here with Big Mountain team kids. Not terribly expensive.
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09-01-2023, 08:19 AM #20
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09-01-2023, 08:51 AM #21Registered User
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09-01-2023, 09:24 AM #22
11-16 has always been a weird interim for kids. Biggest thing I found was making sure whatever adult ski you got for them, that they could bend the tip appropriately. They're in a weird height:weight ratio as they get more muscle structure, and leverage becomes a bit wonky for a lot of teens. It's further complicated by their growing feet - arguably the much harder issue to address.
In the past I recommended a lot of twins because of how well the tips bend. Particularly true if they're slamming a lot of bumps. STP has some good deals on Faction if you wanna put him on a a women's ski.
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09-01-2023, 12:28 PM #23
Anyone want a cheap ski for a growing teen, I have some 184 Faction CT (candide) 3.0 for sale for $100 + ship. Nice ski. Pivot mount at about 306.
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09-02-2023, 07:39 AM #24Registered User
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09-02-2023, 10:36 AM #25
When kiddo is still very light, I go to a bigger ski swap, like the one in truckee. I look for skis that are typically on the shorter side of the scale, or have a bit of flex. I look for mid-fat 95-105-ish, a fit of soft flex, modern design, and tuneable. I try to find deals. If I can find one, I also look for a fatter ski. If the kid dials into the skis, great! If they don’t, then I get creative with consignment shops.
Bindings: sometimes I’ll find a ski I want for the kid w/o bindings. If that happens, I find a cheap ski with good bindings and buy it just for the bindings. I’ve scored pretty well with that system.
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