College Admissions Scandal

[Benny Profane]

Please. Make it stop.

Ten to twenty years from now one of the kids will write a book.....

[reckless toboggan]

Damn.

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SEE IF YOU CAN PASS THE EXAM JIM HARRICK JR. GAVE HIS GEORGIA STUDENTS
CHICAGO TRIBUNE

This 20-question test was the final--and only--exam for Georgia assistant coach Jim Harrick Jr.'s Coaching Principles and Strategies of Basketball class in 2001. The test, released by the school Wednesday, was uncovered during an NCAA investigation that resulted in the firing of Harrick Jr. and his father, the head coach, and landed Georgia on probation.

1. How many goals are on a basketball court?

a. 1, b. 2, c. 3, d. 4

2. How many players are allowed to play at one time on any one team in a regulation game?

a. 2, b. 3, c. 4, d. 5

3. In what league to (sic) the Georgia Bulldogs compete?

a. ACC, b. Big Ten, c. SEC, d. Pac-10

4. What is the name of the coliseum where the Georgia Bulldogs play?

a. Cameron Arena, b. Stegeman Coliseum

c. Carrier Dome, d. Pauley Pavilion

5. How many halves are in a college basketball game?

a. 1, b. 2, c. 3, d. 4

6. How many quarters are in a high school basketball game?

a. 1, b. 2, c. 3, d. 4

7. How many points does one field goal account for in a basketball game?

a. 1, b. 2, c. 3, d. 4

8. How many points does a 3-point field goal account for in a basketball game?

a. 1, b. 2, c. 3, d. 4

9. How many officials referee a college basketball game?

a. 2, b. 4, c. 6, d. 3

10. How many teams are in the NCAA Men's Basketball National Championship Tournament?

a. 48, b. 64, c. 65, d. 32

11. What is the name of the exam which all high school seniors in the State of Georgia must pass?

a. Eye exam, b. How do grits taste exam

c. Bug control exam, d. Georgia exit exam

12. What basic color are the uniforms the Georgia Bulldogs wear in home games?

a. White, b. Red, c. Black, d. Silver

13. What basic color are the uniforms the Georgia Bulldogs wear in away games?

a. Pink, b. Blue, c. Orange, d. Red

14. How many minutes are played in a college basketball contest?

a. 20, b. 40, c. 60, d. 90

15. How many minutes are played in a high school basketball game?

a. 15, b. 30, c. 32, d. 45

16. Diagram the 3-point line.

17. Diagram the halfcourt line.

18. How many fouls is a player allowed to have in one basketball game before fouling out in that game?

a. 3, b. 5, c. 7, d. 0

19. If you go on to become a huge coaching success, to whom will you tribute (sic) the credit?

a. Mike Krzyzewski, b. Bobby Knight

c. John Wooden, d. Jim Harrick Jr.

20. In your opinion, who is the best Division I assistant coach in the country?

a. Ron Jursa (sic), b. Jon Pelphrey

c. Jim Harrick Jr., d. Steve Wojciechowski

For answers . . . you're kidding, right?

Source: University of Georgia.

[Benny Profane]

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Ok, but, I'll bet a few players needed help reading that and filling in the answers properly.

[The AD]

Guy I know and his wife spent a shit ton grooming their daughters with squash all during elementary and high school. Got her oldest into Dartmouth which was never happening on academics. Consensus is that mom thinks it's prime husband shopping grounds.

Hold on. Squash is a sport that has actually been played in the last 50 years?

Edit: maybe this explains why I didn't realize people still played squash:

•Squash players and fans represent a highly targeted demographic of men and women, with median incomes of more than $300,000 and an average net worth of $1,500,000.

https://www.ussquash.com/squash-facts/

[dunfree]

Hold on. Squash is a sport that has actually been played in the last 50 years?

Edit: maybe this explains why I didn't realize people still played squash:

https://www.ussquash.com/squash-facts/

it's disproportionately popular amongst people from the sub-continent imo.

[AdironRider]

It is kinda interesting how squash, like tennis, is such a rich boy game yet ultimately costs basically nothing to play. Well conceivably, since the only places I know with squash courts are rich private schools (like Dartmouth).

[fatnslow]

The final exam given to University of Georgia men's varsity basketball players.

The third year university course was taught by the coach's son, and the entire grade was based on the final exam.

Here it is:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...335-story.html

SEE IF YOU CAN PASS THE EXAM JIM HARRICK JR. GAVE HIS GEORGIA STUDENTS

This 20-question test was the final--and only--exam for Georgia assistant coach Jim Harrick Jr.'s Coaching Principles and Strategies of Basketball class in 2001. The test, released by the school Wednesday, was uncovered during an NCAA investigation that resulted in the firing of Harrick Jr. and his father, the head coach, and landed Georgia on probation.

The real travesty is only half the players received A's in this class.

[fatnslow]

Guy I know and his wife spent a shit ton grooming their daughters with squash all during elementary and high school. Got her oldest into Dartmouth which was never happening on academics. Consensus is that mom thinks it's prime husband shopping grounds.

It might be money well spent on a few fronts. A. make great connections for a career out of college B. Score a MRS degree with a trustafarian .

[muted]

For two (2) years following high school I lifted weights with SC football players. I played against five (5) SC players* in high school (and knew all of them), and had been lifting with one Keith Davis for a little while It was through Keith that I began lifting at SC, mostly spring and summer. From my time there, I'll simply state that some of those guys had no business being on a college campus. And their complete lack of discipline during the practices I watched corroborated my initial impressions. BTW, the biggest SC "yard ape" was David Webb, a whitey. This was a few years later, say around 1989 or 1990. I swear, every time I was near that guy, I could feel the presence of demons.


* In addition to Keith, there was Sam Ano, also from Samo (Santa Monica High School), Eric McKee from Banning, Jeff Bregel from Kennedy, and Al Washington from Carson.



I don't like her because she's a fucking tool and, yes, she was most definitely an affirmative action hire. Caruso had a hudge role in putting her there, and now it seems, she's doing his bidding. She launched an attack against very well regarded Dean of the Marshall School of business. When the matter recently came up before the Board of Trustees, Caruso stifled any and all dissent, even having one of the board members removed from the meeting because he had actually investigated the matter and possessed significant learnings showing that the actions taken against the Dean were unfounded.



Well, in addition to the "yard ape" comment, I've also used here over the years a bunch of words that might be deemed racial epithets. I was also called racist a few years ago for referring to Italians as bunch of fucking dagos. Imagine that! Basically, I fucking hate everyone, equally. Is that racism?

You ain't worth my time or anyone elses. Classic narcissist and a racist: boring person. There's probably a lot of 4chan boards you would love, why not post over there instead?

[SumJongGuy]

For two (2) years following high school I lifted weights with SC football players.

OH falling back to the "these are my friends" or "meet my black friend" defense eh??

FWIW, my cousin played at USC in the mid 90s under John Robinson. He actually played in grad school, took real classes and made very good grades. He earned his MBA from SC. Odd that he never mentioned the discipline problems your friends seemed to exhibit.

[tenB]

USC has never had football scandals... OJ Simpson, Al Cowlings, Reggie Bush, Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian.

Two confiscated Heismans, history of NCAA sanctions and bowl ineligibility, and a culture of players and coaches taking illegal benefits. Let’s not forget AD Pat Hayden running onto the field to verbally threaten the referees during a game.

They hire Lynn Swann as AD to restore credibility and his right hand lady takes multiple bribes to get celebrity kids accepted as star athletes in sports they don’t even play.

USC, University of Scandal

[SumJongGuy]

USC has never had football scandals... OJ Simpson, Al Cowlings, Reggie Bush, Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian.

Two confiscated Heismans, history of NCAA sanctions and bowl ineligibility, and a culture of players and coaches taking illegal benefits. Let’s not forget AD Pat Hayden running onto the field to verbally threaten the referees during a game.

They hire Lynn Swann as AD to restore credibility and his right hand lady takes multiple bribes to get celebrity kids accepted as star athletes in sports they don’t even play.

USC, University of Scandal

True but that's quite a bit different than Viva calling them undisciplined. They EARNED that money!

[cinnepa]

imagine a college with athletes having to meet the same academic standards as the everyday students. no more "minor league" football, basketball, etc teams. would look like ivy and military academy teams everywhere, which is fine by me.

[MarcusBrody]

imagine a college with athletes having to meet the same academic standards as the everyday students. no more "minor league" football, basketball, etc teams. would look like ivy and military academy teams everywhere, which is fine by me.

I think you underestimate the difference in academic standards for everyday students between the Ivy League/military academies and Alabama/Boise State.

[Benny Profane]

imagine a college with athletes having to meet the same academic standards as the everyday students. no more "minor league" football, basketball, etc teams. would look like ivy and military academy teams everywhere, which is fine by me.

You have to wonder about the trash talking across the line at Ivy/Big league games. "You may crush us today, but we'll own your fat asses in a few years."

[mtnjam]

Guy I know and his wife spent a shit ton grooming their daughters with squash all during elementary and high school. Got her oldest into Dartmouth which was never happening on academics. Consensus is that mom thinks it's prime husband shopping grounds.

Or they could have just sent her to BYU Idaho for husband shopping.

[Skistack]

You have to wonder about the trash talking across the line at Ivy/Big league games. "You may crush us today, but we'll own your fat asses in a few years."

I went to a small lib arts university, but by no means Ivy League.

The cheer when we were getting smoked yet again was “that’s alright, that’s OK, you’re gonna work for us someday”!


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[cinnepa]

^^^^gold....and true.

[old goat]

Saw this in the WP today.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.a8691d475c6c

Auction 10% of the spots at highly selective colleges to the highest bidder. All bidders must meet the same minimum GPA and SAT criteria as other students who are admitted. The winnera hacw to pay, even if they decide to go elsewhere. Eliminate all legacy admissions. Use the money to lower tuition and increase enrollment and financial support of poor students.

I would go further and require that admitted athletes at all colleges or university, whether scholarship or not, must have SAT scores and GPA's equal to or higher than the lowest among non-athlete admitted students. (Some years ago, my alma mater Oberlin, after 10 years of winning no football games, decided to recruit football players. They set a minimum SAT of 1200, which might be decent at ASU but would never get you into Oberlin if you weren't an athlete or could really rock out on the oboe.) If it were up to me I would eliminate college sports altogether but this Murica, ain't going to happen, but at least require the athletes to be up to the academic standards of the school. I'm guessing 'Bama will still keep winning football games. (But it sure was fun to see Sabin get his ass kicked this year.)

[mcski]

I wonder how many alums would still open their pocket books for endowment pledges if Legacy considerations were off the table

[The AD]

I would go further and require that admitted athletes at all colleges or university, whether scholarship or not, must have SAT scores and GPA's equal to or higher than the lowest among non-athlete admitted students.

You'd better eliminate the loophole of schools just accepting a "token dumb guy" simply to lower the admission standards for athletes. There are definitely schools that would dumb down their acceptance standards just to make sure top recruits could get in.

[wooley12]

My wife was hired by a college that had recruited it's first men's lacrosse team from a pool that included many who's academics were weak. Her job was to help them learn how to learn so that the freshman could get to be seniors without flunking out. Most of her first class were still on the team when they won the National Championship a few years later.

[Viva]

OH falling back to the "these are my friends" or "meet my black friend" defense eh??

FWIW, my cousin played at USC in the mid 90s under John Robinson. He actually played in grad school, took real classes and made very good grades. He earned his MBA from SC. Odd that he never mentioned the discipline problems your friends seemed to exhibit.

Hey, I could make a bunch of shit up and you dummies wouldn't know. Just saying that I knew a number of the players and was familiar with the program back in the early-mid 1980s (And not just via the weight room! John Guerrero (he was a Mexican) and Marc Sager used to host Saturday Night Porn in their dorm. I always brought good beer, which was not always appreciated, as most of those in attendance preferred the cheap stuff. Fucking deplorables!

SC significantly changed admission requirements for incoming football players around 1990, so when Coach Rob took over those new standards were already in affect. I really don't know much about what went within the program, at least at the level of the players, during the 1990s. Who was your cuz? Was he on the Rose Bowl team?

True but that's quite a bit different than Viva calling them undisciplined. They EARNED that money!

Kindly allow me to rephrase, they were uncoachable, i.e., not-at-all bright. (i.e., i.e., i.e., not college material)

USC has never had football scandals... OJ Simpson, Al Cowlings, Reggie Bush, Pete Carroll, Lane Kiffin, Steve Sarkisian.

OJ dropped out of school following the Rose Bowl. This is a scandal? Please explain to me what was so scandalous about Pete Carroll. Doinking that twenty-year-old co ed? Not at all illegal, and he was onto something, as I would find out for myself later!

Two confiscated Heismans,

And now you're making stuff up.

...history of NCAA sanctions and bowl ineligibility, and a culture of players and coaches taking illegal benefits.

Yeah. And Alabama, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, et al have never had such activities going on in their programs. This shit happens all over! And has been for a long time.

Let’s not forget AD Pat Hayden running onto the field to verbally threaten the referees during a game.

They hire Lynn Swann as AD to restore credibility and his right hand lady takes multiple bribes to get celebrity kids accepted as star athletes in sports they don’t even play.

I'm with you on this point! Both Haden and Swann were/are jokes as athletic directors. Haden was a member of USC's Borad of Trustees and help orchestrate the hiring of Lane Kiffin, the firing of previous AD Mike Garret, and his hiring as Garret's replacement (along with a $2MM / anum salary). None of these three men had any previous experience or qualifications to warrant a job as an athletic director at a Div I university. But at least Garret had a set and wasn't afraid to fight for USC. But this is what really got SC into trouble with the NCAA when the Bush situation was revealed. The NCAA came down hard on USC because of Mike Garret and their battles with him during the 1990s. Had SC played the game like all the other programs that "cheat" e.g., Texas, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, et al, not much would have come out of the "Bush and his family receiving payments from some wannabe sports agents" situation. Of course you fucking dummies don't know that.

[Jong Lafitte]

Holy crap what a game.

[SumJongGuy]

^^My dad did his grad work at USC, I did mine in the UT system. Loved to tease my dad about that game. Yes, his knee was down LOL!