Anybody fondled the new carbon cuff Fischer travers boot?

[djhutch]

I have the current Carbon Travers and love it. I have the newer Maestrale (Orange) which I rarely use since the Carbon Travers skis downhill almost as well and uphill much better. The fiddle factor on the Travers is as low as it gets.

But to the question at hand, I am confused by what the rep says in the video. Doesn't the current Carbon model already have a carbon cuff? If so, what is so new about next year's boot? Maybe it is 50grams lighter and a newer BOA? What am I missing?

[thejongiest]

I've broken the boa mounting plate twice on my Fischer's, cracked the shell, and broke off one of the brass boa loops. I love the boots, but they have not held up for me.

[Boissal]

I have the current Carbon Travers and love it. I have the newer Maestrale (Orange) which I rarely use since the Carbon Travers skis downhill almost as well and uphill much better. The fiddle factor on the Travers is as low as it gets.

But to the question at hand, I am confused by what the rep says in the video. Doesn't the current Carbon model already have a carbon cuff? If so, what is so new about next year's boot? Maybe it is 50grams lighter and a newer BOA? What am I missing?

The current version has a carbon sole for torsional rigidity & a carbon-infused Grilamid upper shell. The new version appears to have a full carbon upper cuff (or at least more richly infused Grilamid)... which still doesn't do shit as it transmits all the power to the lower shell which appears to be made of gelatin reinforced with overcooked pasta ribs for maximum deformation potential.

[swissiphic]

Did you experiment with anything that effectively added rearward stiffness to your boots?

I put some thought into it.

Coupla basic conceptual ideas came to mind. No clue if they'd really work in the real world.

1. An easily re/re external rigid rod that spans from a mounting point on ski topsheet to upper boot rear cuff area. See pics for an rough idea of what that would look like. Something like a section of hollow alu or carbon ski pole could be a light material to use? Real world effectiveness would be influenced by ski flex obviously...so perhaps only valid for skis with stiff underfoot to tail flex patterns? Dunno, it'd be cool to try it out and see.

2. Using a very rigid material, a curved 'exoskeleton' or some sort of removable rigid rear brace than extends from boot heel shelf to top rear of cuff. Obviously would work best if the shelf is totally free and exposed as a mating surface such as when using tech binders...could probably mold something to fit in the recess of the boot/binding heel piece attachment point if required too though if using dh binders.


In pic i just used a piece of coat hanger to illustrate the basic concept...

[rod9301]

Why not just get a stiff boot?

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[swissiphic]

Why not just get a stiff boot?

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Sure, but where's the fun in that?

[NorCalNomad]

Why not just get a stiff boot?

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cause uphill

[September]

New Fischer Sports catalog is online and claims 930g.

[Climber Joe]

I've broken the boa mounting plate twice on my Fischer's, cracked the shell, and broke off one of the brass boa loops. I love the boots, but they have not held up for me.

Good thing my instep is so high I hardly ever even engage the boa up or downhill, and if I do it’s just a wee bit

[wilcox510]

Anyone checked these out, or even skied in them yet? Thoughts on comparison to Dynafit TLT8 Carbonio?

[Climber Joe]

Anyone checked these out, or even skied in them yet? Thoughts on comparison to Dynafit TLT8 Carbonio?

I think you’ll notice a difference in fit, and the Fischer might be a bit stiffer torsionally through the lower boot.