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12-27-2020, 01:24 PM #26Registered User
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you ever tried that^^ ?
I actulay know what happens cuz i tried it
Scraping the silicone off was a real bitch cuz it does not come off easy like hot glue
and then the goldlabel didnt stick to the skinLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-27-2020, 01:24 PM #27
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12-27-2020, 01:33 PM #28Registered User
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IME re-ironing of the old glue may work for awhile but really its time to reglue
get a tube ( i alwasy have 2) of goldlabel, strip all the old glue off with heat gun/putty knife,
reglue and heat it in with a medium hot iron
I think what happens is the glue hydrolyzes which is why you want to keep your glue dryLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-27-2020, 01:36 PM #29
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12-27-2020, 01:39 PM #30
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12-27-2020, 01:49 PM #31
Any reason to use the tube of goldlabel rather than the iron-on goldlabel transfer paper they sell aside from price? ive never reglued skins. new territory for me
Ultralight Mix huh. Ok well I hate them.
Try ironing twice - first with parchment, pull it while still warm to get the funky layer off. Then again with Black Diamond transfer paper (the stuff that comes on their new skins) and let it cool before pulling.
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12-27-2020, 01:50 PM #32Registered User
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IME just rub yer hand over the skin glue and the glue comes off easily i think the skins were faction, i have a large ball ( 1 tube ) of skin glue from that stilborn attempt to fix glueless skins which i will post a pic of if i can find it
the skins belonged to an unnamed bro who is extremely hard on gear, they were past washing covered in doghair/ dirt/pine needles and completely useless so it was worth a try
i think he said the skins got overheated above the stove on a hut weekLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-27-2020, 02:02 PM #33
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12-27-2020, 02:12 PM #34Registered User
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yeah the reason to use a tube of glue instead of transfer sheets is the price, you can check online but a tube of glue is about 1/4 the price of transfer sheet glue, either of them still needs to be heated in which is why its called hot glue
i saved those pieces of skin-backing paper that came on the skins but eventualy they rip, so baking parchment has always worked fine for me, its just a way to make a smoove surface on the glue with the iron
somebody said your don't even need the parchment or backing paper so of course i tried it AND he was right it works
but if you are spreading new glue you want to apply many small beads of glue to spread the tube out evenly between the 2 skins and parchment or skin backing whatever you have will help you get it flat/even and smoove
the beautiful shiny smoove glue only lasts till you put the skins togetehr the first timeLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-27-2020, 08:20 PM #35Registered User
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Iron the glue to remove moisture and maintain coverage. Eventually the glue gets beyond saving (sticking to itself and ski bases more than is tolerable), which is time to sell to some dirtbag for cheap and buy new. Re applying glue (sheets or tube) is way too time consuming and doesn’t make em good as new.
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01-23-2021, 01:02 PM #36
Nothing earth-shattering, but a good overview. The "Mediocre" boys on skins (spoiler alert - Pomoca):
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01-23-2021, 03:03 PM #37
Good one. I like the comparisons. High praise for pomoca. Saving that
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01-23-2021, 07:43 PM #38
I wouldn't discount Coltex and Contour either, given my anecdotal and wholly unscientific comments in post #16.
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01-23-2021, 08:17 PM #39
Oh right. You were saying the pomoca grip and glide slightly better, but close. I see rhose coltex tail clips come undone ez. Bd's come off occasionally but so far they seem to be some of the more secure tail clips. Maybe there is something better though?
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01-23-2021, 08:30 PM #40
Real hard to say with certainty, since my buddy's uphill technique is better than mine, but they definitely fit much, much closer to the green Pomocas than to nylon skins.
I'm really curious however (if my COVID season isn't a bust), to cut down some nylon skins for a narrower width ski in the Spring. Maybe that's a slot where 100% nylon makes sense?
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01-23-2021, 08:31 PM #41Registered User
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G3 Alpinists are super reliable and sturdy.
I've also been enjoying the Pomoca S-Glides (with MountainFlow Skin Wax) this season and really enjoying them.
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01-23-2021, 08:55 PM #42
With bd atleast ive settled on the mohair/nylon mix. Less bulky and better glide than the full nylon . I liked the glide on the full mohairs but theyre very fragile. Ive managed to rip those far too ez
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01-23-2021, 08:58 PM #43
Another pomoca thimbs up is looking good. Sounds like g3 has some decent options now. Ive just seen too many problems with them for years and years to chance it. Even though theres several good reports now id be pissed if i bought some and the old issues arose
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01-23-2021, 09:03 PM #44Registered User
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Love my contour hybrid mix.
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01-23-2021, 09:19 PM #45
The pink pomocas are the shit. Even better than the s-glides. Better glide. Insanely light. Pack up tiny. Sightly less grip.
I've been using some Fischer-branded Kohlas too this season. The grip/glide is pretty damn good- solid grip. Better glide than BD mixes. Similar performance to the aqua Pomocas, I think. But the glue is sub par. I've always thought people who complain about how hard it is to pull their skins apart were just whiners and weaklings. But these things are ridiculous. I need to inject steroids into my ass on every lap so I have enough strength to rip them apart. And they don't stick to my skis all that well either. Tip and tail attachments are working fine, but I can see how they might not work well on certain tip/tail shapes.
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01-23-2021, 09:36 PM #46
Pinks eh? Narrowing the search!! Are they a struggle to pull apart?
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01-23-2021, 09:38 PM #47
Ive heard good reports. Not sure, i think the tail clips were getting lost? Maybe that was something else
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01-23-2021, 09:42 PM #48
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01-23-2021, 09:53 PM #49
I do that!! Its the "old" part of my shoulders that make it hard
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02-14-2023, 12:59 AM #50
What's a good quick wax to remove skin glue off the ski bases when you want to transition to descend? Last wk I had a major issue with the skin glue making the skis very grabby.
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