Look Pivot 12 screw sizes

[torn_acl]

Hey y'all,

I got some newish Pivot 12s missing some screws. Anybody know what size screws I should get and where I can get them?

Two places I've found:
Tognar: https://www.tognar.com/alpine-binding-screws/
Binding Freedom: https://www.bindingfreedom.com/screws/

Here's a few pics of the bindings:






Here's the screws and how many I need:

1x rear binding rear screw (long one)



3x rear binding front screw (short one)


3x front binding screw (medium one)


Help would be appreciated. Pls tryna mount asap

[aguo5520]

Taken from https://www.bindingfreedom.com/look/

• Pivot 14 (13/14 and newer)
  
  • 8 - 16mm flat heads
  • 4 - 10mm low heads
  • 4- 16mm low heads

But I'm also wondering where you can buy these readily?

[torn_acl]

I saw that link, but those are for Pivot 14s. Are Pivot 12 screws the same?

[galibier_numero_un]

Contact Terry (TGR @alpinord) at Slidewright: https://www.slidewright.com/ski-and-...rts-and-plugs/

... Thom

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[FlimFlamvanHam]

Taken from https://www.bindingfreedom.com/look/

• Pivot 14 (13/14 and newer)
  
  • 8 - 16mm flat heads
  • 4 - 10mm low heads
  • 4- 16mm low heads

But I'm also wondering where you can buy these readily?

those are for the M5 machine screws for the inserts. Don't go by those measurements. They may be correct (99% sure they are not), but just saying not apples to apples.

[galibier_numero_un]

those are for the M5 machine screws for the inserts. Don't go by those measurements. They may be correct (99% sure they are not), but just saying not apples to apples.

Excellent point. The M5 screws have to have some margin so as to not bottom out in the inserts. Add the theckness at the bottom of the insert, and you have 2-3mm extra margin.

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WAIT a MINUTE! I just re-read the OP. You have at least one of each screw type for reference length. Other than sourcing, what question are you trying to answer?

If you need to mount ASAP, a local ski shop is your answer.

... Thom

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[aguo5520]

those are for the M5 machine screws for the inserts. Don't go by those measurements. They may be correct (99% sure they are not), but just saying not apples to apples.

Oh, good catch.
Dug up the answer someone gave my from me asking the same question in the mount your own skis thread.

❅-Pivot 14 (13/14 and newer)
•8 – 18mm small heads
•4 – 10mm low heads
•4 – 16mm low heads

https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/232898-PSA-Mount-your-own-fucking-skis?p=5518510&highlight=aguo5520#post5518510

[Vitamin I]

To order the correct screws at the links posted in this thread, it helps to know the names/lingo to specify the items you want to order.

Here's the screws and how many I need:

1x rear binding rear screw (long one)

That screw is called "20mm panHead" a.k.a. "20mm lowHead". Different screw heads have different standard measuring methods (which gets confusing). For panHead screws, the "20mm" is measured from the BOTTOM of head to the end of the screw.

3x rear binding front screw (short one)

That screw is called "12mm panHead" a.k.a. "12mm lowHead".

3x front binding screw (medium one)

That screw is called "FlatHead". For FlatHead screws, the length is measured from the TOP of head to the end of the screw...so that photo looks like a "19mm FlatHead" to me. CAVEAT: I can't see in the photo how wide that head is. If the head is narrow, then it would be called "19mm NarrowHead"...but the photo looks to me more like a FlatHead than a NarrowHead.

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[Alpinord]

I received your PM. Here is the Pivot template I made years ago with screw sizes shown:



Somewhere I have images of the screws and will try to post them up. Check out our tuning tips on measuring screws and 'rules for minimum thread engagement'. The 18mm panheads are close to the 19mm and may work fine. IIRC, the 28mm panheads may be cut, but the remaining thread length might only net (3) threads.

[mr_pretzel]

Do the 12mm pan heads from slidewright fit the toe piece for the newer P18s without the riser? Look the same and they measure 12mm. Only worried because it says it used a PZ#w driver insetad of a PZ#3?