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11-15-2019, 09:19 AM #1701
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11-15-2019, 10:35 AM #1702
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11-19-2019, 12:57 PM #1703
Enough of Steve Garvey and the bargain bin HOF candidates, the new ballot is:
Bobby Abreu, Josh Beckett, Heath Bell, Barry Bonds, Eric Chavez, Roger Clemens, Adam Dunn, Chone Figgins, Rafael Furcal, Jason Giambi, Todd Helton, Raul Ibanez, Derek Jeter, Andruw Jones, Jeff Kent, Paul Konerko, Cliff Lee, Carlos Pena, Brad Penny, Andy Pettitte, J.J. Putz, Manny Ramirez, Brian Roberts, Scott Rolen, Curt Schilling, Gary Sheffield, Alfonso Soriano, Sammy Sosa, Jose Valverde, Omar Vizquel, Billy Wagner, Larry Walkerj'ai des grands instants de lucididididididididi
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11-19-2019, 01:19 PM #1704
Derek Jeter
Larry Walker
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11-19-2019, 01:26 PM #1705Funky But Chic
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Schill ain't ever gonna make it. I did see his bloody sock in there when I went though.
Manny's gotta get in so we can all hear his speech.
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11-19-2019, 01:32 PM #1706
Omar
I still call it The Jake.
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11-19-2019, 01:45 PM #1707
I'm sick of this shit every year. Baseball is the worst for this. Let's just rename the goddamn place "The Hall of Above Average Players" and let everyone in with at least 5+ years of playing time and above average stats for a 5 year period. It would solve the steroid problem as well.
"timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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11-19-2019, 02:10 PM #1708
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11-19-2019, 02:18 PM #1709
Count me in on that if the investors get a t-shirt.
When football goes about choosing people for the HoF there's no fuss about it, and I had no idea until I drove thru Springfield, MA once there was even a basketball HoF. From lack of cars in the parking lot, it didn't look like many other people did either."timberridge is terminally vapid" -- a fortune cookie in Yueyang
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11-19-2019, 02:19 PM #1710Good-lookin' wool
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11-19-2019, 02:29 PM #1711
Curious how BAs over .300 & 1300+ RBIS and a WAR over 70 becomes "mediocrity" or just "above average " stats
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11-19-2019, 02:36 PM #1712
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11-19-2019, 02:47 PM #1713
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11-19-2019, 02:51 PM #1714
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11-19-2019, 03:00 PM #1715
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11-19-2019, 04:38 PM #1716
Jeter
Schilling
Bonds
Clemens
Walker"fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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11-19-2019, 05:00 PM #1717
Bonds and Clemens are arguably (and inarguably in the case of Bonds) the best position player and pitcher to have ever played. They need to be in regardless of roids. Jeter should be a shoe in, Shilling is worthy and is only out because he is a massive dick. It isn't the hall of decent morals, it is the hall of fame, and that dude pitched one of the most dramatic games of all time, and don't forget how him and Johnson took everyone to school when they were Diamondbacks as well. Walker seemed overrated to me but fuck it, let him in also.
But I also never gave a shit about steroids, or HGH, or any of that stuff. I want to see moon shots and unhittable heaters. This is entertainment after all.
Also, Chone Figgins? Talk about remembering some guys (RIP Deadspin). That dude won me a fantasy league one year and I still immediately forgot about him.Live Free or Die
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11-19-2019, 05:15 PM #1718Funky But Chic
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Manny's gotta get in. 555 HR, 2574 hits, career .312, career WAR 69.4. Clutch as shit. Clearly one of the best hitters of all time. He only juiced because he thought it got you high.
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11-19-2019, 09:10 PM #1719Registered User
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11-19-2019, 09:21 PM #1720
Good list above.
I'd put a nod in for Helton. Probably not this time, but I think he was one of the best of his time regardless of playing at Coors field and his propensity for driving and driving.
Wouldn't say shit if they put Omar in as well.
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11-19-2019, 09:30 PM #1721
I'm incredibly biased but just the defense alone is HoF worthy in my opinion:
- All-time leader in double plays made while playing shortstop
- 11-time Gold Glove recipient; Oldest shortstop recipient of the Gold Glove (age 38 in 2005, and again at age 39 in 2006)
- Highest career fielding percentage by a shortstop (0.9846) with at least 1,000 games played
- Lowest number of errors in a season by a shortstop (tie) (3 in the 2000 season)
- 6th in assists all-time, 3rd in assists at SS all-time
The M's traded Omar to the Tribe for some dudes named Félix Fermín, Reggie Jefferson, and cash. What?I still call it The Jake.
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11-19-2019, 09:37 PM #1722Funky But Chic
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11-19-2019, 09:39 PM #1723
My philosophy with the "steroid guys": if they inarguably were Hall of Famers regardless of steroids, I say yes (hence Bonds and Clemens), but I'm not sure that's true of Manny, it's harder to say.
By stats alone,, he deserves entry. But so do Sosa, Palmeiro, McGwire, etc."fuck off you asshat gaper shit for brains fucktard wanker." - Jesus Christ
"She was tossing her bean salad with the vigor of a Drunken Pop princess so I walked out of the corner and said.... "need a hand?"" - Odin
"everybody's got their hooks into you, fuck em....forge on motherfuckers, drag all those bitches across the goal line with you." - (not so) ill-advised strategy
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11-19-2019, 09:43 PM #1724Funky But Chic
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So he gives 50 home runs back. Keeps the hits and the BA. He's still in. He wasn't any Sosa or McGwire with the juice by any means.
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11-19-2019, 09:46 PM #1725
MLB Thread 2019
Manny was a better hitter plus more exciting in the field than those guys
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