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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Nope, I'm not on a typical schedule. When I was, I'd tour solo occasionally before /after work, but not very often because skiing in the cold and dark just isn't that fun for me.

    Mostly I'm just being argumentative for the sake of internet conversation. I more or less get the whole solo inbounds tour for exercise thing, although I maintain that similar levels of exercise can be had via a bit of exploring. But for people who want all the misery of standing on an elliptical for an hour but in a more scenic setting that smells better, I guess skinning up a groomer is ideal.

    But the root of my original comment was directed at people that aren't solo, and aren't on a time crunch. On any given Saturday, there's a steady stream of people skinning up inbounds at the local resort. They're in groups, and they have (for whatever reason) avy gear with them. Some of them will keep lapping that groomer for hours (i.e. walk up, ski down the groomer, repeat). They're doing this when there's an abundance of easily accessed, safe terrain holding good, stable snow that's immediately adjacent to the ski hill. Not to mention a whole bunch of more interesting terrain not far away. If it was a few people here or there, I wouldn't think much of it - probably just people that are new to touring, figuring things out. But it's a lot of people doing it. And I know for a fact that a good number of them have everything they need (including knowledge) to go for a real tour.
    So what's it to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post
    So what's it to you?

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    Nothing at all. I just think it's weird. And this is the place on the internet where we talk about things that we think are weird.

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Nothing at all. I just think it's weird. And this is the place on the internet where we talk about things that we think are weird.
    Rod must be new here....

  4. #154
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    uphill inbounds is a cultural thing at Whitefish. Once a thing develops a cultural following logic becomes less of an explainer. Why sag your pants? Because your friends do. Why do they? Because one saw a celebrity do it. Etc.

  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    And Snowbasin seems like a good example of a ski hill where you can park in the resort parking lot and efficiently get into out of bounds terrain that'd suit a wide variety of skill levels.
    Well.....not really. Especially not early season or any time there is low tide, like I mentioned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zion zig zag View Post
    Well.....not really. Especially not early season or any time there is low tide, like I mentioned.
    I dunno. I'm just basing that on a couple days at snowbasin back around Christmas. We found a bunch of easy sidecountry, and there were plenty of skin tracks going up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I dunno. I'm just basing that on a couple days at snowbasin back around Christmas. We found a bunch of easy sidecountry, and there were plenty of skin tracks going up.
    We've had above average low elevation snowpack this year, so I agree that it's doable now.

  8. #158
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    DPS Wailer A112 184s with Tectons and Technica ZG TPs could be my everyday skis
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  9. #159
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    Have you guys heard of cross country skiing? You should try it. The best way I can describe it skinning without skins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles View Post
    Have you guys heard of cross country skiing? You should try it. The best way I can describe it skinning without skins.
    I know. Maybe Iím spoiled in that my little town has the largest cross country ski network in N. America but skate skiing is actually pretty fucking fun. Kedar can go too. One trail head connects to the gazillion miles of skate skiing and has a pretty good BC run so I throw both shit in the car and sometimes do both.

    Also I do outreach at trail heads to tell people about an avalanche control website, and out of the 300 people I meet in a day,(Sunday, popular spot), maybe 50 know about avalanche stuff.

    The general public just doesnít know shit.
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    Where are you at that has a bigger XC trail network than anchorage. Thatís gotta be nuts. Oh and fuck xc skiing. Hate that shit.
    But Ellen kicks ass - if she had a beard it would be much more haggard. -Jer

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    For the love of Ullr stop skiing your low tech bindings at the resort!

    I love skiing. XC with the hound almost every day. Rather hit the park trails in/out to a hut with the family any day over the ass raping at the local major resort. In fact, havenít bought a single dh pass yet this season, just BC with the sled (or just the sled - more faceshots). The little one hasnít been on dh sticks yet this year, but is already ahead of me at her age, no tears there. To the OP, if I for some reason care to bring the BC kit to the hill because Iím tinkering with the lift-served gear, take your judgement of me skiing the way I am, not interfering with your shit in any way, and shove it where even Ullr dare not go.

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    So if tech binders are a no go, are we allowed to step down to non releasable bindings but fully flexible soled ankle high xc boot setups?

    Free the heel and free the full shank sole.

    Also fwiw; dunno what the deal is with folks tearing out toepieces...i've tested tech bindings on mounting plates attached to skis with two layers of heated and clamped overnight double sided carpet tape and they didn't fall off. Haven't heard of any substantial numbers at my home mountain where prolly 30 percent of total skiers are on tech binding setups charging everything in sight. Kinda kept a finger on the pulse of things...a few heel piece explosions, some broken toepieces and one broken tib/fib specifically attributed to tech binding non release/specific motion fall...over the past half a decade or so afaik. Acceptable numbers.

    What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chugachjed View Post
    Where are you at that has a bigger XC trail network than anchorage. That’s gotta be nuts. Oh and fuck xc skiing. Hate that shit.
    https://www.methowtrails.org
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  15. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    ...there's an abundance of easily accessed, safe terrain holding good, stable snow that's immediately adjacent to the ski hill. Not to mention a whole bunch of more interesting terrain not far away...
    I'm not sure I'm aware of the area that you're talking about (adjacent to the mountain), but if you're game, I'd love to get a tour (see what I did there) one of these days. When do you typically go?

    Seth

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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    but can I wear my skin suit in the resort, or...?
    Is your name Buffalo Bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sethschmautz View Post
    I'm not sure I'm aware of the area that you're talking about (adjacent to the mountain), but if you're game, I'd love to get a tour (see what I did there) one of these days. When do you typically go?

    Seth
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  18. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfinn View Post
    I don't really give a shit what other people decide to ski on but isn't this pretty common in euro land?
    Iíve been skiing in resorts around Innsbruck this week. Iíve seen many many sets of pin bindings being used on lifts.

    To the OP. Based on the age of some of the Dynafit bindings Iíve seen being used on lifts this week, I would say that there doesnít seem to be a problem with them pulling out of skis. Maybe us Europeans are lighter than you Americans? Maybe we know not to lock the toes on Ďgroomersí? Maybe we are better at mounting skis? ;-)

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    I'm working on countersinking dynafit toe pin cups into my actual feet for ultralight touring. Was planning on testing inbounds but now self-consciously reconsidering...hmmm....

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    No no no, you have to use a 3 pin binding.

    How the fuck are you going to carve slots in your heel bones for the posts???

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    Quote Originally Posted by SB View Post
    No no no, you have to use a 3 pin binding.

    How the fuck are you going to carve slots in your heel bones for the posts???
    Dremel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sethschmautz View Post
    Dremel?

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    I use a drill press. Don't want the bit wandering onto my achilles.

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    For the love of Ullr stop skiing your low tech bindings at the resort!

    Quote Originally Posted by shredgnar View Post
    As someone who has ripped multiple dynafit toe pieces out of skis by skiing them inbounds, I think this thread might be onto something.
    Sames

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    Anyone here got experience doing a burlier tech binding like the beast for a 70/30 BC/resort set up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheel44 View Post
    Anyone here got experience doing a burlier tech binding like the beast for a 70/30 BC/resort set up?
    I've been running beast14s on my RPCs inbounds for the last 2-3 years. They have worked well for me - no pre-releases. I don't think they ski quite as well as the Lord SPs I had on there previously, but not not much worse. Noticeably better than the Radical 2.0s I can also run on those same skis (inserts for both).

    Let me know if you have any specific questions.

    Seth

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