For the love of Ullr stop skiing your low tech bindings at the resort!

**summit** · 02-06-2019, 05:23 PM

DPS Wailer A112 184s with Tectons and Technica ZG TPs could be my everyday skis

**Foggy_Goggles** · 02-06-2019, 08:44 PM

Have you guys heard of cross country skiing? You should try it. The best way I can describe it skinning without skins.

**plugboots** · 02-06-2019, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by Foggy_Goggles

Have you guys heard of cross country skiing? You should try it. The best way I can describe it skinning without skins.

I know. Maybe I’m spoiled in that my little town has the largest cross country ski network in N. America but skate skiing is actually pretty fucking fun. Kedar can go too. One trail head connects to the gazillion miles of skate skiing and has a pretty good BC run so I throw both shit in the car and sometimes do both.

Also I do outreach at trail heads to tell people about an avalanche control website, and out of the 300 people I meet in a day,(Sunday, popular spot), maybe 50 know about avalanche stuff.

The general public just doesn’t know shit.

**Chugachjed** · 02-07-2019, 12:53 AM

Where are you at that has a bigger XC trail network than anchorage. That’s gotta be nuts. Oh and fuck xc skiing. Hate that shit.

**BCMtnHound** · 02-07-2019, 01:12 AM

I love skiing. XC with the hound almost every day. Rather hit the park trails in/out to a hut with the family any day over the ass raping at the local major resort. In fact, haven’t bought a single dh pass yet this season, just BC with the sled (or just the sled - more faceshots). The little one hasn’t been on dh sticks yet this year, but is already ahead of me at her age, no tears there. To the OP, if I for some reason care to bring the BC kit to the hill because I’m tinkering with the lift-served gear, take your judgement of me skiing the way I am, not interfering with your shit in any way, and shove it where even Ullr dare not go.

**swissiphic** · 02-07-2019, 01:51 PM

So if tech binders are a no go, are we allowed to step down to non releasable bindings but fully flexible soled ankle high xc boot setups?

Free the heel and free the full shank sole.

Also fwiw; dunno what the deal is with folks tearing out toepieces...i've tested tech bindings on mounting plates attached to skis with two layers of heated and clamped overnight double sided carpet tape and they didn't fall off. Haven't heard of any substantial numbers at my home mountain where prolly 30 percent of total skiers are on tech binding setups charging everything in sight. Kinda kept a finger on the pulse of things...a few heel piece explosions, some broken toepieces and one broken tib/fib specifically attributed to tech binding non release/specific motion fall...over the past half a decade or so afaik. Acceptable numbers.

**plugboots** · 02-07-2019, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

Where are you at that has a bigger XC trail network than anchorage. That’s gotta be nuts. Oh and fuck xc skiing. Hate that shit.

https://www.methowtrails.org

**sethschmautz** · 02-07-2019, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by toast2266

...there's an abundance of easily accessed, safe terrain holding good, stable snow that's immediately adjacent to the ski hill. Not to mention a whole bunch of more interesting terrain not far away...

I'm not sure I'm aware of the area that you're talking about (adjacent to the mountain), but if you're game, I'd love to get a tour (see what I did there) one of these days. When do you typically go?

Seth

**mcski** · 02-07-2019, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by mall walker

but can I wear my skin suit in the resort, or...?

Is your name Buffalo Bill?

**toast2266** · 02-07-2019, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by sethschmautz

I'm not sure I'm aware of the area that you're talking about (adjacent to the mountain), but if you're game, I'd love to get a tour (see what I did there) one of these days. When do you typically go?

Seth

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**Ocean** · 02-07-2019, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by dfinn

I don't really give a shit what other people decide to ski on but isn't this pretty common in euro land?

I’ve been skiing in resorts around Innsbruck this week. I’ve seen many many sets of pin bindings being used on lifts.

To the OP. Based on the age of some of the Dynafit bindings I’ve seen being used on lifts this week, I would say that there doesn’t seem to be a problem with them pulling out of skis. Maybe us Europeans are lighter than you Americans? Maybe we know not to lock the toes on ‘groomers’? Maybe we are better at mounting skis? ;-)

**sruffian** · 02-07-2019, 03:57 PM

I'm working on countersinking dynafit toe pin cups into my actual feet for ultralight touring. Was planning on testing inbounds but now self-consciously reconsidering...hmmm....

SB · 02-07-2019, 04:15 PM

No no no, you have to use a 3 pin binding.

How the fuck are you going to carve slots in your heel bones for the posts???

**sethschmautz** · 02-07-2019, 09:07 PM

Originally Posted by SB

No no no, you have to use a 3 pin binding.

How the fuck are you going to carve slots in your heel bones for the posts???

Dremel?

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**I've seen black diamonds!** · 02-07-2019, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by sethschmautz

Dremel?

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I use a drill press. Don't want the bit wandering onto my achilles.

**Fritz** · 02-07-2019, 09:34 PM

Originally Posted by shredgnar

As someone who has ripped multiple dynafit toe pieces out of skis by skiing them inbounds, I think this thread might be onto something.

Sames

**sheel44** · 02-08-2019, 03:20 PM

Anyone here got experience doing a burlier tech binding like the beast for a 70/30 BC/resort set up?

**sethschmautz** · 02-08-2019, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by sheel44

Anyone here got experience doing a burlier tech binding like the beast for a 70/30 BC/resort set up?

I've been running beast14s on my RPCs inbounds for the last 2-3 years. They have worked well for me - no pre-releases. I don't think they ski quite as well as the Lord SPs I had on there previously, but not not much worse. Noticeably better than the Radical 2.0s I can also run on those same skis (inserts for both).

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

Seth

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**El Chupacabra** · 02-08-2019, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by sethschmautz

I've been running beast14s on my RPCs inbounds for the last 2-3 years. They have worked well for me - no pre-releases. I don't think they ski quite as well as the Lord SPs I had on there previously, but not not much worse. Noticeably better than the Radical 2.0s I can also run on those same skis (inserts for both).

Aren't the toe pieces the same on the Beast 14 as on the Rad 2.0? If so, then is the improved ski "feel" entirely from the heelpiece?

**doebedoe** · 02-08-2019, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

Aren't the toe pieces the same on the Beast 14 as on the Rad 2.0? If so, then is the improved ski "feel" entirely from the heelpiece?

Yes, they are same toe, different heel.

**Huskier** · 02-08-2019, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds!

I believe Black Crows with tech bindings has replaced DPS with tech bindings as the setup of choice for the shockingly bad skier on touring gear in the resort.

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Guilty

**toast2266** · 02-08-2019, 05:14 PM

15-20" of blower today. Deepest day of the season so far. Still a fair number of people hiking up the groomer (that wasn't groomed) all day, while the lifts were turning. I don't get it.

**PNWbrit** · 02-08-2019, 05:29 PM

Originally Posted by sheel44

Anyone here got experience doing a burlier tech binding like the beast for a 70/30 BC/resort set up?

This might have been discussed a couple of hundred times before.

**sethschmautz** · 02-08-2019, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by El Chupacabra

Aren't the toe pieces the same on the Beast 14 as on the Rad 2.0? If so, then is the improved ski "feel" entirely from the heelpiece?

Yes and yes, I believe so. The beast binding feels much more planted and solid.

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**sethschmautz** · 02-08-2019, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by toast2266

15-20" of blower today. Deepest day of the season so far. Still a fair number of people hiking up the groomer (that wasn't groomed) all day, while the lifts were turning. I don't get it.

Glad I was working today...

How cold?

Seth

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