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02-01-2019, 11:35 AM #26
Frame weights on Transition's website include the shock, IIRC, while GG's frame weights don't, so take that into consideration. Still, they're claiming 29 lbs for the mid-level Megatrail build which is damn impressive.
This is definitely pretty rad. It also mentions that because of the higher temp process they can powder coat these instead of painting which is sweet.
I don't think any one is going to be rearranging their bike on a daily basis, but I could see the swappable rear triangles being a nice feature in certain circumstances. Say, if you buy a Megatrail then move somewhere where it makes more sense to have a 120 mm 29er as your DD. You could buy the kit and still have the Megatrail for trips, etc.
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02-01-2019, 12:23 PM #27
Main advantage of a shared front triangle is that it lets them build one mold for a carbon part that goes on more bikes so they can pay off the investment faster (ever?). So whether anyone swaps the rear or not is almost moot: they'd want to do it either way, so any other benefit is kind of a freebie.
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02-01-2019, 01:28 PM #28
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02-01-2019, 01:34 PM #29Registered User
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These are good points. I just got a Sentinel after seriously considering a Smash, and probably the thing I like least about it is how easily the paint chips. If I'd waited 3 weeks, it would have been nice to get the Smash now, and an option to convert to a Trail Pistol if I moved somewhere flatter.
According to their build calc, their size 2 with DPX2 weighs about 100g more than a medium carbon Sentinel, which is no delicate snowflake. So while they're lighter than before, they're still going to be very stout bikes.
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02-01-2019, 01:37 PM #30
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02-01-2019, 02:50 PM #31
The bikes are already awesome pedaling bikes as is .... I think the weight savings may not be as noticeable as damping of high-frequency chatter transmitted into the headset and bottom bracket. I complained to Will at GG that with 35mm diameter bars and ultra-stiff stems on the 2017 demo fleet, the front ends were so stiff and locked in that they really needed carbon bars on the demos to make the bikes feel less harsh and more user friendly up front - at least on the trail configurations for more typical riders. I also wonder if they changed lateral frame compliance or not going to carbon front triangles. Knowing their engineering background I'm sure they tested this before committing to the line changes.
I'm also really curious how the new triangle changes the feel of the moment of inertia around the bottom bracket and rear hub. With short chainstays the new frames might feel like manual-city! Hopefully they go back on the road with more demo days with the new lineup this summer ..._______________________________________________
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02-01-2019, 02:54 PM #32
Been looking around at fork options for a new #eeb. The RS yari dpa 29+ would cover any build of this new gg. Internals look good . 150-180
https://www.sram.com/rockshox/produc...osition-air-29
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02-01-2019, 11:39 PM #33
Ooooooohhhh - adjustable reach headsets and stack spacers as well. Smart move to make their carbon investment pay off with fewer molds.
And I read a 78 degree STA on the Trail Pistol. Man I would love to try the new Shredd Dogg!_______________________________________________
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I'll be there." ... Andy Campbell
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02-02-2019, 02:42 AM #34
Even if people don't take advantage of the swappable stays it still seems like a pretty killer value.
The carbon megatrail frame is only .3 lbs lighter than the alu, but GG has never been about building light bikes. I just picked up an aluminum model 2 weeks ago (lightly used), but even buying new I'm not sure the $800-$1k premium for the carbon model would have been worth it. Looking forward to demoing one to feel the difference.
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02-04-2019, 08:03 AM #35User
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So I'm sure it's somewhere on their site, but I can't find any info, where do you demo these?
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02-04-2019, 09:49 AM #36
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02-04-2019, 09:59 AM #37Registered User
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They had a list of ambassadors (BAMF's) which were located around the US and had small fleets of a few bikes in a few sizes. They also have demo's during the season.
Probably best to ask them directly with an email or on mtbr.com as they seem to be pretty responsive.
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02-04-2019, 10:29 AM #38
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02-04-2019, 10:33 AM #39
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02-04-2019, 10:42 AM #40yelgatgab
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@jm2e, looks like you'll have some demos nearby.
https://www.facebook.com/roanokeadve...73072882705563Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.
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02-04-2019, 10:45 AM #41User
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I've wondered what is too steep. For most of my riding, I ride all uphill and then all downhill, so I think a steep seat tube angle would work fine. But what about those trails that are flatter and more pedally, that are neither really up or down, and you're just doing a lot of flattish pedaling?
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02-04-2019, 10:56 AM #42
One word:
Thudbuster
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02-06-2019, 10:29 AM #43
The Yeti SB130 and Spot Mayhem are running a similar angle. I took them each out on back to back days last year in Moab and found that I was using the dropper to go down <10 mm a lot more often than I usually do. It started unconsciously, but by the end of the ride on the Mayhem it was pretty pronounced, especially on little sections with a lot of steps up and down.
I think droppers are a big part of why these STA's work on trail bikes. Pedaling over something techie while seated at full height is less ideal above some angle (maybe 75/76?). But at the same time, that steeper angle makes it a little easier to pedal with the seat just a little bit down from max.
It's worth noting that like a really high maximum seat height, though, so YRMV. I do kind of like a crazy steep angle on a TT bike, too, but above about 79-80 the effort required to keep from sliding forward is a bit much.
Tl/dr: I think we're close to max STA.
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02-11-2019, 11:58 AM #44Registered User
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GG is hype. Definitely looking at them for my next bike.
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02-12-2019, 06:16 AM #45yelgatgab
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Anybody seriously considering one of these should take advantage of the fully refundable deposit to mark their spot in line. Sounds like the orders are piling up.
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02-12-2019, 11:05 AM #46Registered User
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The steep seat angle does make it awkward to corner with the seat all the way up, so If it's flat but twisty I'll just ride with the seat down an inch or so. I find I stand up more to pedal as well, which I like doing anyway. Some place like Gooseberry the seats down almost all the time and I just stand to pedal. But like you most of our riding is longer climbs/descents, so the steep STA/dropper post combo really is a win/win.
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02-13-2019, 01:28 PM #47User
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^^^I was thinking of St. George area trails when I posted that. I think you're right though, drop the seat a couple of inches and stand more. Either way, I'm looking forward to demoing some of these bikes.
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02-13-2019, 02:04 PM #48
I'd pretty happily give up some flat pedaling comfort in exchange for improved steep climbing since I do a lot more of the latter.
I'm leaning toward a Shred Dogg as my next bike (though probably not carbon), with the SBG Scout a very close second. The SD isn't quite as slack (can take an angleset, though), but has a steeper STA and becomes a Megatrail with only a shock and fork change. Hell, apparently with a DVO Topaz and Ribbon Coil even the shock/fork swap isn't necessary. I haven't fully convinced myself I could stomach the weight penalty of the Ribbon Coil, though. There's a 2018 Megatrail frame in my size on PB right now for $1300 that is burning a hole in my pocket.
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02-13-2019, 03:21 PM #49
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02-13-2019, 03:41 PM #50
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