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01-29-2019, 12:44 PM #26
The specs say 16oz.
I carry the SOL escape bivvy which is a step up from the bivvy Adrenalated linked. It seems durable enough "for emergencies" and has a cheap waterproof/breathable fabric and is only 8.5oz. I wouldn't want to use it on a regular basis, but it just resides in my pack in case I have to unexpectedly bivouac. I should give it a test sometime now that I think about it, and I'm not sure it's any more durable than the cheaper versions, although the material is thicker.
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01-29-2019, 12:45 PM #27
The bothy 2 person is what I have. It’s crazy light. Never had to use it so far so can’t say how it works but it seems durable.
I ski 135 degree chutes switch to the road.
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01-29-2019, 12:48 PM #28
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01-29-2019, 12:51 PM #29best emergency shelter for backcountry skiers?
Re: medicine I'm just saying don't pack a bunch of med without knowing what to do with them
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01-29-2019, 12:57 PM #30
Indeed. Even OTC can be dangerous. Saw a patient who was in lithium toxicity after being given 800mg ibuprofen 3 times a day for 10 days for a sprained ankle on a wilderness trip (dehydration didn't help). Saw someone with kidney injury because they took tons of ibuprofen with their ace inhibitors. There is a reason they wouldn't let EMTs give advil or tylenol in most places (some places allow it for pediatric fever, only a few allow it for pain control) because you cannot cram pharmacology into a 140 hour class.
The amount of pharmacological interactions healthcare providers have to know is astounding and we still have to use pharmacists, books and computers as a safety check. Polypharmacy is whack yo!Originally Posted by blurred
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01-29-2019, 01:51 PM #31
the Rab bothy I got was only $60 iirc. haven’t deployed it in anger but it’s pretty light/packable too.
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01-29-2019, 01:56 PM #32
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01-29-2019, 03:22 PM #33Rod9301
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01-29-2019, 03:32 PM #34Rod9301
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So we are at 35 lbs so far in emergency gear.
Slim first aid, tool kit and the warmest puffy you have. If you need it, think about waiting hours without moving, and you'll see why a thin ultralight will not suffice.
Gloves, hat, shovel and LOTS of food. Realistically, if you break a leg, or bleed so hard, all you can do is hunker down. Warm puffy.
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01-29-2019, 03:44 PM #35
I always have these as well as my go-lite puff coat + survival bivy. Can bunker down reasonably well in a snow trench, use the pack for ground insulation, put tarp over the top.
12oz
http://www.westernmountaineering.com.../flight-pants/
They are also super comfy to wear when you are cold and weat at the car after a long tour or on a hut trip.
Note the full leg zips, because you aren't reasonably pulling on puffy pants over a broken leg. Hell, even if my legs are fine, by the time you gotta hunker down, you don't want to be taking both ski boots off and on to put on insulation.Originally Posted by blurred
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01-29-2019, 03:52 PM #36Registered User
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A square tarp that packs down small. Honestly you will be more happy building a quick snow shelter with your skis, tarp and snow on top than you will with an emergency bivy.
Some jb weld and steel wool to reinsert a binding if necessary,Leatherman, bailing wire, multiple ski straps and duct tape. Firestarter stuff, whistle, Warm puffy and tasty treats just in case.
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01-29-2019, 03:53 PM #37
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01-29-2019, 04:14 PM #38Registered User
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Bothy bag. Excellent weight/utility ratio. As far as I can tell the lightest way for 2-4 folks to make it through a night. I had only used it for practice and the occasional tea break until two years ago- spent an unplanned night out on a glacier. The weather we were in would not have killed us, but, the next day we still had to contend with the terain that had benighted us. A wretched down climb on rotten snow over scree above a cliff. I was very happy to have had the bothy bag, It is standard kit for British instructor/guides.
Spare battery and an Inreach. I was on the receiving end of a Spot message when nephew was involved in a critical incident. It sucked. Big fan of two way communication. Was recently skiing a stream bed, maybe two miles from the road when a party member landed flat, knee to chin, initially looking concussed. Despite being on moderate, accessible terrain, we had no cell signal. Had he not improved enough to ski out, help would have been delayed an extra hour, and we would have had to split up. The inreach in my pack would have been a huge help, had we needed assistance.
First aid and repair stuff tailored a bit toward the region and level of remoteness. I sometimes carry enough to remount a binding.
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01-29-2019, 09:01 PM #39
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01-30-2019, 01:19 PM #40
Good answers. Took a few ideas and combined it for my own hybrid.
Went with a reflective tarp recommended above:
https://www.surviveoutdoorslonger.co...y-blanket.html
Over a bothy, reasoning is I can use a tarp to haul someone out, or build a shelter, or wrap around a sled track to make it slide, or to cuddle up in in a trench. Bothy seems like it does only one thing, but would be much more beneficial if ever in a glacier scenario (where winds could get whipping, and leeward terrain isn't readily available.
My amazon list ended up being:
Vet wrap
Gauze pads
Steristrips
Triangular bandage
SWAT Tourniquet
SOL tarp thing
25 feet paracord
Bailing wire
SAM splint
I'll add to that my lighters, fire starters, and space blanket (possibly useless but its tiny and light), misc cordage, gorilla tape, and headlamp and I think I'll have a decent enough kit for what I plan to be doing.
I could probably ditch the tourniquet, but I take the same pack sledding, and I am terrified of someone getting a limb sucked into a track, plus stretchy rubber can have more than one use.
Oh, and I'll be buying an inReach as soon as possible, in this day and age that seems like one of the more important survival tools one can carry.
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01-30-2019, 07:26 PM #41
You can use your voile strap as a tourney.
I'd add some quickclot and a bunch of gorilla tape.
https://www.amazon.com/QuikClot-Adva.../dp/B07MLXWDT3
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01-30-2019, 07:55 PM #42
You can get a voile strap around your thigh and cinch it down enough that you cant feel a distal pulse? (even if you can, its very skinny and likely to cause quite a lot of tissue damage although that is preferable to being dead)
I recommend the Celox Rapid over the Quickclot.Originally Posted by blurred
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01-31-2019, 06:54 AM #43Registered User
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I’m not spending the night out unless someone’s injured, so for packaging up a patient I just carry the vapour barrier sleeping bag liner I already own, which is light (128gms) packable and functional for that application. It’d likely get trashed, but obviously I’m hoping it’ll never be used.
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01-31-2019, 06:58 AM #44Registered User
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01-31-2019, 07:04 AM #45
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01-31-2019, 08:33 AM #46
Both products stop bleeding. Celox uses chitosan base that can be removed by irrigation with normal saline in surgery. Quickclot uses a mineral that must be cut away from tissue.
I've also seen data on the Celox preventing rebleed during transport which is a real value added by using a hemostatic.Originally Posted by blurred
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01-31-2019, 08:53 AM #47
Have spent the night in one of these, not pleasant, but I'm around to tell the tale.
After that experience I'm always carrying one of those SOL emergency bivies. Haven't had to use it yet, but know a few folks who have spent several nights in them voluntarily adventure racing and say it's not too bad.
Used to carry a more expensive BD bivy but I spent one night in it and sold it. It wasn't much better than a contractor trash bag, and it took up more space.
Other than that, nothing real unique. Couple of things I focus on:
Phone is really important for me, use Gaia for navigation, and the Backcountry SOS app for if things go south. So I always haul a portable battery bank and keep my phone warm. Have a big no-name battery that's supposed to be able to charge my phone 8 times fully. It's great to have that peace of mind.
On the gear repair front: Bunch of zip ties, leatherman with interchangeable bits, JB weld, QC inserts, couple random nuts and bolts, skin wax, sewing kit. A crap ton of extra batteries. Had a few times where I've shown up at a trail head and my partners have needed new beacon batteries. Same goes for headlamps.
Also recently started carrying a pair of Skeats, just in case I have a catastrophic skin failure, as well as the Pomoca emergency skin. That product is super freaking cool.
The big thing where I feel like I'm putting myself out there is on the extra clothing front. Right now I've got a spare puffy, beanie, mittens, socks, base layer and buff. I feel fine on most tours with that, but for bigger days I'd really like to have a bigger puffy, and some insulated pants. Other alternative is just carry an elephant foot bag, which I may just end up doing instead.
And then some time in the next few weeks I need to crank out the sewing machine and make a rescue sled. Wouldn't come out with me most of the time, but for big missions I'd like to have it.
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01-31-2019, 09:00 AM #48
I've heard mixed reviews on Skeats. Any experience yet?
And do you carry the Pomoca emergency glue spray?. It seems that a few extra Voile straps could replace both Skeats and the spray.
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01-31-2019, 10:18 AM #49
everyone should carry what makes them comfortable. But really catastrophic skin failure is your fault and is easily avoidable. In my opinion a better use of the space and weight would be a couple of hot hands body warmers. From the skeat site appears the are made to work with skins
interesting information about the chitosan thanksoff your knees Louie
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01-31-2019, 11:23 PM #50
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