Getting older getting colder

**Chugachjed** · 01-26-2019, 10:55 PM

I think I need a pair of lightly insulated ski pants. Been getting cold for the first time of my life. Not sure if it’s because I’m 38 now or because I lost 40 pounds but I’m getting cold in 20 degrees. I’ve even started skiing in a primaloft jacket. What lightly insulated pants are the mags rocking these days?

**Chugachjed** · 01-26-2019, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by flowing alpy

jeans

All my jeans are too big I lost weight.

**PNWcement** · 01-26-2019, 11:38 PM

I grabbed these just in case - don’t need to own a second set of insulated ski pants or layer up heavy with extra merino layers. They take the edge off for sure and seem less bulky than fully insulated - https://www.backcountry.com/haglofs-...knee-pant-mens

And you can find them cheaper if needed, but when I grabbed in September were only $68. I’m a 35-36” waist and larger is perfect.

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**Dee Hubbs** · 01-27-2019, 02:07 AM

I’ve been wanting to look for a 3/4 insulated pant layer. I’ve almost started a thread after searching.
My criteria is 3/4 length, synthetic insulation, and full side zips so you can put them on (like the bra out the armpit trick) while still wearing your outer shells.
Helly Hansen Storm Pant.
https://www.hellyhansen.com/en_se/st...ant-full-65573

**t-the-east** · 01-27-2019, 06:42 AM

Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs

and full side zips so you can put them on (like the bra out the armpit trick) while still wearing your outer shells.

I can’t even imagine how that would work with pants. Bras, yes. Post a TR when you get it dialed in.

**reckless toboggan** · 01-27-2019, 06:49 AM

Originally Posted by t-the-east

I can’t even imagine how that would work with pants. Bras, yes. Post a TR when you get it dialed in.

**Dee Hubbs** · 01-27-2019, 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by t-the-east

I can’t even imagine how that would work with pants. Bras, yes. Post a TR when you get it dialed in.

Unzip your shell pants side vents, unzip both the the full length zippers on the 3/4 insulated pants, put them in your shells under your crotch like a diaper, attache the zippers at the hips and zip to your knees.
Enjoy a lunch on the ski track or summit in warmth, unzip them after your break, and pull them out Zoolander style.

**whyturn** · 01-27-2019, 08:12 AM

I got Norrona Lyngen Alpha for legs and suprisingly warm under shell. Also Minus 33 has heavyweight (400) merino leggings

But cant help on insulated pants

**Chugachjed** · 01-27-2019, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by flowing alpy

that’s a good thing, tight fitting isn’t in style down here.

It’s not the 90s. I can’t go around in pants that are huge on me. 40 pounds is pretty significant.

**3PinGrin** · 01-27-2019, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

All my jeans are too big I lost weight.

That's why you're getting cold. I suggest more beer and a certain pork product to get those 40 lbs back, ha.

I have noticed getting colder with age as well, kinda sucks. Are you talking for touring / lift served or both? I just wear thicker or thinner longjohns depending on temps. Touring I still just wear a light breathable schoeller pant and a light shell to throw over them if needed but have found over the years that my preferred underwear for a specific temp are getting thicker.

So yeah, what steved said.

**Meadow Skipper** · 01-27-2019, 10:06 AM

Do you have a pair of shell pants that you like? What about just adding an insulating layer like:
Patagonia R1 pants, or
Patagonia Synchilla pants, or even:
Patagonia Nano Puff Pants

I understand if you’ve ingrown (opposite of outgrown?) your shell pants. I just don’t have experience with insulated pants. But I enjoy my puffy pants (older Patagoo) on cold-ass days, not just when skiing. They’re pretty versatile. I’ll wear ‘em in a light sleeping bag sometimes when camping.

BTW, big ups on losing weight, as long as it was intentional I guess.

**3PinGrin** · 01-27-2019, 10:22 AM

I picked up some Terramar ecolator 3.0 expedition weight longjohns this year for $40. They are the shit and the fabric looks just like the R1 stuff.

**waxoff** · 01-27-2019, 11:19 AM

I run a pair of Marmot Freerider pants. They've got a liner but no padding, perfect for resort use.

**pfluffenmeister** · 01-27-2019, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by SoooL

I run a pair of Marmot Freerider pants. They've got a liner but no padding, perfect for resort use.

Same. Good pant.
If it's really cold I have a pair of insulated Patagonia Powderbowl pants.

**N1CK.** · 01-27-2019, 11:50 AM

I have a pair of Columbia insulated pants that would keep you warm in Siberia in January. Cheap too, maybe $100 many years ago.

**SumJongGuy** · 01-27-2019, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

It’s not the 90s. I can’t go around in pants that are huge on me. 40 pounds is pretty significant.

Fart bag FTW! I've never been cold in a good one. Problem is, I'm usually hot in them by 11am and fewer options to lose layers with that. That's why the two good ones I have stay at the back of the closet un used in about 5 years. Just find one that doesn't look like a 90s Hot Tub Time Machine or even older disaster.

**hutash** · 01-27-2019, 12:08 PM

Ha, 38 and old.

I am old, and am getting colder, especially hands and feet. I just picked up some lightly insulated Eider pants from everestgear.com. They still have a 70% off sale. I used them for the first time last week in some single digits at Mammoth, and loved them. Not sure which model, though. I can figure that out if need be.

I am almost to the point of boot warmers, but I'm not that old, yet!

**Chugachjed** · 01-27-2019, 12:35 PM

I might try a mid layer, Ive always hated layering though. Thanks for all the suggestions

**mattig** · 01-27-2019, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

I might try a mid layer, Ive always hated layering though. Thanks for all the suggestions

Me too, but I got over it. If it's cold enough, I still like my North Face freedom pants. Cheap, lightly insulated, durable, waterproof, breathable, and has some small vents.

I changed to shell pants and either wear a 3/4 insulated compression legging or some generic mountain hardwear tights underneath. I use the compression if it's a long day or am going to be skiing hard trying to keep up appearances for maggot buddies. Regular tights when chasing my kid around.

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**SKIP IN7RO** · 01-27-2019, 02:22 PM

I have been using the Smartwool nts 250 pants, and the temp range is pretty broad...good all-arounder. Best I have found to bump lower body temp is to add a pair of shorts to keep the groinal region up to temp. Mine are just a pair of loose knee length athletic shorts.

For a multi-use option, Melanzana makes a nicely designed pair of windpro fleece pants. I have acquired a couple pairs over the years and mostly use them for around the house, but they are also nice for really cold lift days. The most worn pair has been cut down to 3/4 length to use for riding. They are good looking and fitting pair of sweatpants.

Kuiu hunting has a few full-zip underlayers. Plus Phenix and other ski racer brands have some cool under/over shorts and 3/4 pants.

**t-the-east** · 01-27-2019, 02:45 PM

Fly low baker bibs.

**axebiker** · 01-27-2019, 07:32 PM

Flylow Snowman insulated pants are great. I've had a number of them. Great fit, and the insulation is fairly light, but enough to keep me warm(er) on lift-served MN ass-crystallizer days.

**Shredhead** · 01-27-2019, 08:26 PM

Tons of old timers here and they all use hand warmers.

**RShea** · 01-28-2019, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

I might try a mid layer, Ive always hated layering though. Thanks for all the suggestions

Expedition weight long underwear is one of the ways to have a midlayer. I've got 2 pair I regularly rotate when the temperature approaches single digit (F) or lower. Fleece or a nice wool heavy weight item in the layering quiver.

And 38 is the new 28 and not old...