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Thread: Ophir Pass Battleship Incident
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02-08-2019, 08:36 PM #26
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02-08-2019, 08:58 PM #27Best regards, Terry
(Direct Contact is best vs PMs)
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02-08-2019, 09:00 PM #28
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02-08-2019, 09:01 PM #29Best regards, Terry
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02-08-2019, 09:02 PM #30
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02-08-2019, 09:07 PM #31Best regards, Terry
(Direct Contact is best vs PMs)
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02-08-2019, 11:05 PM #32Registered User
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Not just practice, but check your shit frequently.
A couple weeks ago I dug a pit. Pulled out probe, threw it, and assembled it on first pull like clockwork.
Week after, pulled it out for a rescue scenario, threw it, and it wouldn't ever release to assemble. Instructuror and multiple others tired. No dice.
Warrantied this week.
Now plan to assemble probe and shovel prior to every day I'm really in avalanche terrain.
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02-09-2019, 09:51 AM #33
+2^^. I just took an AST1 course with my wife and maybe half the people there didn't know how to lock their probes in our first exercise. Sounds like Skier 1 had the same issue. From what I watched, it seemed like most of those probes would "break" at the top joint and people would keep stabbing the ground with most of a probe
Pretty sure no one had that issue by the second or third try.
Doebedoe, what kind of probe was that? I'm having trouble envisioning a use for anything complicated enough to have that problem.
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02-09-2019, 03:20 PM #34I'm having trouble envisioning a use for anything complicated enough to have that problem.
OTOH My probe has had the cable freeze in place from carrying it on the outside of my pack but not in a sleeve. There was no way to get it to work other than take it inside warm it up and thoroughly dry it out.
After that mess I sprayed it with Silicone and started keeping it inside the pack where it belongs.
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02-10-2019, 09:37 AM #35
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02-10-2019, 09:40 AM #36
Here's a pic taken outside the Opus Hut sauna on the backside of Battleship Mtn
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02-10-2019, 11:41 AM #37
BC Pole Probes
I have no particular experience with this in an emergency situation, but I have seen a lot of people in the bc who have adjustable ski poles that can be connected into a short probe and therefore do not carry a separate probe. I can see where they might occasionally practice with a transceiver but have never actually taken their poles apart, removed one basket and reconnected them to make a usable probe. Not something you want to try and figure out for the first time in an emergency. Lots of transceiver search practice going on, but I don't see much probing practice.
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02-10-2019, 11:46 AM #38
This has been on my mind a lot this winter. Around New Years my wife and were digging a pit in some way back terrain and when I took out my probe (a 3 year old BD QuickDraw 320) for measuring and ECT the cable broke.
If it had been a rescue situation that would of sucked.
I’ve gone through a few probes the past 20 years. I dig a lot of pits. This is the second BD probe I’ve seen the cable break on in the past 4 years. I switched to a BCA Stealth 300. I’ve gotten into the habit of drying and lubing my probe and shovel regularly now.
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02-10-2019, 04:00 PM #39Lots of transceiver search practice going on, but I don't see much probing practice.
You are off stage until the tester calls you to begin, when you get on scene you shout go and have to get your beacon out and switch to receive and begin your coarse search.
When you get a signal you shout that out, when you start your fine search you shout that out and then you have to get your probe out and begin that step.
When you hit the pack you again shout that out and begin digging until you have the pack out and in hand.
Times for all steps are recorded and posted in the locker room.
The pressure of being observed and the competition makes it a real and stressful test and the feedback from the Proctor/tester helps a lot.
Hard to recreate that kind of a thing for ski buddies.
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02-10-2019, 09:41 PM #40
Probes are disposable items.
A lot of the rescue types carry two (for a couple reasons).
Drill with your gear often.
Show up with a set of poles that assemble into a "probe" then you get to carry my probe and use my poles for the day while you tour and think about me rescuing you with your shit rescue equipment.Originally Posted by blurred
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02-11-2019, 08:52 AM #41
Why should I spend money for extra equipment I then have to carry just to save you more efficiently? Sounds like a reasonable position.
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02-11-2019, 09:21 AM #42
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02-11-2019, 09:28 AM #43Best regards, Terry
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02-11-2019, 04:22 PM #44
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02-11-2019, 07:00 PM #45Best regards, Terry
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02-11-2019, 09:06 PM #46Registered User
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Had a new, not so good experience with my probe yesterday.
New this year Ortovox alu 320 probe. Threw it out to deploy and a section wouldn’t come together. Closer inspection showed the end of the section was deformed (it wasn’t round anymore) therefore it wouldn’t go together.
Fixed with a needle nose, luckily it was just practice and not a situation.
Carried a G3 probe for years without issue.
Going back to the G3 with threaded knob top.
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02-11-2019, 09:50 PM #47
I’d TOTALLY give her mouth breaths without a barrier.
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02-15-2019, 09:13 AM #48Warrior of the Wasteland
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This skier is lucky to be alive, but these two are clueless with their choice of approach. The buried skier is very arrogant and believes he's king of the mountains, he's also a telluride patroller, go figure. Sad you never hear the whole story sitting in your Denver cubicle.
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02-15-2019, 10:34 AM #49
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02-15-2019, 11:42 AM #50
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