1/18/19 Utah Avy Death - No Beacons

[ODHGABFE]

Sad to read about this avy death in Utah on Friday. Preaching to the choir here, but please, wear your beacons

https://utahavalanchecenter.org/avalanche/43026

[SaltyUte]

First fatality in three years. Tragic.

[Ted Striker]

Tragic and preventable are the words you were looking for.

[SaltyUte]

Tragic and preventable are the words you were looking for.

Agreed

[2FUNKY]

What a bummer. Feel sorry for the family and friends of this guy. Please travel in the BC prepared. Sounds like many mistakes were made that were preventable.
SaltyUte, you can edit your post so you don’t come off as such a dick.

[Ted Striker]

To be fair, I was responding to your first post.

And I agree that if any good can come from events like this it's awareness and prevention.

[teleee]

What a bummer. Feel sorry for the family and friends of this guy. Please travel in the BC prepared. Sounds like many mistakes were made that were preventable.
SaltyUte, you can edit your post so you don’t come off as such a dick.

Exactly, so sad to hear about. While this was obviously preventable I would point out that most, if not all avalanche deaths are. We have all made mistakes out there, and to call someone elses stupid seems pretty hypocritical to me.

[SaltyUte]

SaltyUte, you can edit your post so you don’t come off as such a dick.

I did and that's my bad.

[2FUNKY]

I did and that's my bad.

Solid. All good man.

[sfotex]

It's worth noting that even if this party had had beacons the results may have been the same because the skier that lived had gotten so far ahead of his partner that by the time he skinned back up a lot of time had passed.....

[2FUNKY]

It's worth noting that even if this party had had beacons the results may have been the same because the skier that lived had gotten so far ahead of his partner that by the time he skinned back up a lot of time had passed.....

Noticed that as well. One of several mistakes made that day.

[powdork]

some say whoever goes last is basically skiing solo.

[snapt]

It's worth noting that even if this party had had beacons the results may have been the same because the skier that lived had gotten so far ahead of his partner that by the time he skinned back up a lot of time had passed.....

At the avy refresher I did this year they were talking about quantifying how many fatalities are "effectively alone", something like 70% of those killed are out of sight or effective range of their partners to be rescued, thus effectively alone. A bigger problem with sleds but this certainly fits the mold.

[turbomike15]

some say whoever goes last is basically skiing solo.

I think about this a lot.. to guinea pig or to ski alone, best to have a group of 3 or more and be in the middle...

[thefrush]

some say whoever goes last is basically skiing solo.

I think about this a lot.. to guinea pig or to ski alone, best to have a group of 3 or more and be in the middle...

Also something I think about often and try to figure out the best way to mitigate in avy terrain. I've definitely had pangs of terror watching a partner come down and thinking about if the slope were to slide, how long would it take me to get to them?

[skifishbum]

https://utahavalanchecenter.org/avalanche/43487
8 riders
3 beacons 2 shovels a probe
and probably over a 50 grand of snow machines

[Bunion 2020]

^^^ Ouch.

[muted]

I think about this a lot.. to guinea pig or to ski alone, best to have a group of 3 or more and be in the middle...

If the guy who skied off without watching his partner stopped mid-run, there might have been two dead people. He absolutely should hav stopped somewhere in view of the run of course, but it's interesting how that mistake (this one time) might have saved him. Or not, who knows.

[jackattack]

and probably over a 50 grand of snow machines

Bought on credit

[happytimefunbox]

What in the actual fuck on the utarded snomobroers in moab. Dude had 4 kids. Jeezus. Must be gods plan...

sad face is sad

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[skideeppow]

So what were these guys doing ski touring, with no beacons? I dont get it. You have the gear, why not the transceiver?

[xksrx]

https://utahavalanchecenter.org/avalanche/43487
8 riders
3 beacons 2 shovels a probe
and probably over a 50 grand of snow machines

Apparently there was an additional beacon in his pack, turned off...

They were getting a weak or erratic signal, maybe his beacon was running out of juice?

Either way wtf.




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[TahoeJ]

some say whoever goes last is basically skiing solo.

Never thought of it that way, but it's definitely a good reason to break up lines as a group and not ski top to bottom (terrain dependent of course). Plus, doing that allows for nice photo opportunities anyway.

[hafjell]

Apparently there was an additional beacon in his pack, turned off...

They were getting a weak or erratic signal, maybe his beacon was running out of juice?

But then perhaps the report would note that the beacon was in send mode but had run out of power?

[xksrx]

But then perhaps the report would note that the beacon was in send mode but had run out of power?

Yes you would think they would have written the report to include that. They never explain the weak/erratic beacon signal though?


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