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    Quote Originally Posted by hafjell View Post
    We don't need more sermonizing 20 year olds with selfie sticks. We need more Glen Plake. Seems like this dude is part of the solution. Keep it up....)
    Four perfect sentences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gramboh View Post
    How often does the north face of Robson get skied?
    Ptor Spricenieks & Troy Jungen in 1995, Dylan Cunningham in 2017.
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    Looking at that face of Robson, it's understandable why it's only been skied three times. Probably very, very, very few opportunities to ski when the conditions are right - and then you need the balls and skills. Toughest descent on the list?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Looking at that face of Robson, it's understandable why it's only been skied three times. Probably very, very, very few opportunities to ski when the conditions are right - and then you need the balls and skills. Toughest descent on the list?
    http://biglines.com/featured/mt-robs...ham-interview/

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    For some reason, everyone with an IG account and a few stout lines to their resume projects themselves as Lao-tzu + Buddha + Yoda = Aksel Lund Svindal in a $100 head band with a walkie talkie. Bonus points if you make the hardships in your trip sound like the Siege of Leningrad which you were only able to conquer because of your indomitable will.
    We don't need more sermonizing 20 year olds with selfie sticks. We need more Glen Plake. Seems like this dude is part of the solution. Keep it up.
    The awesomeness is awesome.

    Fuck yeah Cody. I hope it pays the bills but most importantly stay safe and have fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Looking at that face of Robson, it's understandable why it's only been skied three times. Probably very, very, very few opportunities to ski when the conditions are right - and then you need the balls and skills. Toughest descent on the list?
    I'm only really familiar with the Canadian Rockies ones but Comstock couloir is rarely skied as well. Robson sees more summits (by other routes) so it might be easier to have conditions beta, though I guess Comstock stares you in the face any time during the winter if you climb one of the peaks on the south side of Rogers Pass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hafjell View Post
    Watched again last night. Very funny. Laughed out loud at the baseball bit.
    As I get older, I have a harder time stomaching the incessant wisdom/sermonizing/I'm-not-religious-but-I-am-spiritual sententiousness of mountain athletes. For some reason, everyone with an IG account and a few stout lines to their resume projects themselves as Lao-tzu + Buddha + Yoda = Aksel Lund Svindal in a $100 head band with a walkie talkie. Bonus points if you make the hardships in your trip sound like the Siege of Leningrad which you were only able to conquer because of your indomitable will.
    We don't need more sermonizing 20 year olds with selfie sticks. We need more Glen Plake. Seems like this dude is part of the solution. Keep it up.
    (And I acknowledge that athletes in the mountains do encounter very real danger. I just would like honest reporting. Was it Beth Rhoden who said, style doesn't matter as long as you're honest about it? Paraphrasing.)
    I blame Rob Story



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    the situation strikes me as WAY too much drama at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefrush View Post
    Ptor Spricenieks & Troy Jungen in 1995, Dylan Cunningham in 2017.
    I'm curious how something that gets hit this infrequent qualifies as a 'classic' in the book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapt View Post
    I'm curious how something that gets hit this infrequent qualifies as a 'classic' in the book?
    I think Fifty Classic Climbs of North America set the precedent for that by including a few climbs that were incredibly aesthetic but remote and difficult enough that they rarely if ever get climbed. I believe there is even one route in the book that has never been repeated.

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    Watched Cody ski Mt superior today. Was expecting him to do it AK style. He skied it smartly, especially after kicking off a small class 1 if his first turn. Was still hoping to see him do something out of the ordinary. But it's probably better he didn't. Shows he has done good mountain sense. Hope he's successful on his quest. Like his style.


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    Quote Originally Posted by altacoup View Post
    Watched Cody ski Mt superior today. Was expecting him to do it AK style. He skied it smartly, especially after kicking off a small class 1 if his first turn. Was still hoping to see him do something out of the ordinary. But it's probably better he didn't. Shows he has done good mountain sense. Hope he's successful on his quest. Like his style.

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    That definitely was a Class 1 but it was just slough, not a slide. Most often, I ski the way the mountain lets me ski. Yesterday was go fast, use your best slough management skills and get to high points. I don't advise anyone to ski it any time soon unless you have spent many years in Alaska learning slough management. It was waist deep up there.

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    ^^^ So if youíve so far only skied 2 of the 50 routes, and one of them is the 1 that Iíve skied, that means Iím 50% as good as you are, right? Canít believe youíre a pro.

    But for real, yesterday was a day I would never have thought to ski Superior. Probably still wouldnít. Cool to see the type of experience you have influencing your decision making.

    Curious to know more about the strategy/ logistics of all this. Can I ask why you chose to ski all the Utah lines first? .
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    pissing in a sink? fucking rookies. Shit in an oven, then you'll be pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeywrenchMoose View Post
    ^^^ So if you’ve so far only skied 2 of the 50 routes, and one of them is the 1 that I’ve skied, that means I’m 50% as good as you are, right? Can’t believe you’re a pro.
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    By that math, I'm more than twice as good as him. I wish it worked that way.

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    A few comments so far are just amusing. Hats off to all pros in all sports responding to assinine questions politely.

    First, Cody is a fucking pro skier and has been for how long? He's been around more pro avi forecasters and has more real life experience than most people. So you're questioning him? Who are you again?

    The shit in ski porn is not how pros ride every line, especially in a project like this one.

    The kook on twit asking him what binding he's going to ride? Geez, I wonder...

    Have fun knocking these off!

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    ^^^ Jackstraw, don’t know if you’re referring to my comment or not. But I wasn’t commenting in a negative light on Cody’s decision making, I was simply saying it is interesting to see how past experience is a factor in line choice and decision making. Not just for Cody, but for all skiers.

    I don’t have that experience, and my past experience would have lead me away from superior yesterday. It did not for Cody.

    I think that is cool. Simple comment, that’s all.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDingleberry View Post
    pissing in a sink? fucking rookies. Shit in an oven, then you'll be pro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeywrenchMoose View Post
    Curious to know more about the strategy/ logistics of all this. Can I ask why you chose to ski all the Utah lines first?
    +1. I think I lot of people are interested in the planning, strategy, partners that help you get in position. Cool story angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkeywrenchMoose View Post
    ^^^ Jackstraw, don’t know if you’re referring to my comment or not.
    Nope, not your post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by snapt View Post
    I'm curious how something that gets hit this infrequent qualifies as a 'classic' in the book?
    Quote Originally Posted by thefrush View Post
    Chris, Art, and Penn explained in the intro that they wanted a mix of easier routes (Silver, Shasta) and routes that rarely see descents (Robson). The Fifty Classic Climbs of North America, which certainly served as an inspiration, was done in much the same way. Taken from the introduction of Fifty Classic Ski Descents, "We use the word 'classic' because it best describes what we are after. Classic is a word that over time has broken from its once stringent definition to be flexible. Classic can mean anything from a stellar, commonly skied, accessible descent, to an untouched line of the future."


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    A few comments so far are just amusing. Hats off to all pros in all sports responding to assinine questions politely.

    First, Cody is a fucking pro skier and has been for how long? He's been around more pro avi forecasters and has more real life experience than most people. So you're questioning him? Who are you again?

    The shit in ski porn is not how pros ride every line, especially in a project like this one.

    The kook on twit asking him what binding he's going to ride? Geez, I wonder...

    Have fun knocking these off!
    The Instagram comments on Codyís photo of Superior from a bunch of arm chair pros were amusing.

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    Guy knows how to ski- donít worry about why he didnít shred a certain line a certain way...

    To respect the mountain you ski lines the way the conditions dictate u to ski them or you get spanked....it takes a certain level of physical skill and knowledgeable experience to make snow stability assessments and ski lines, pros for the most part are more experienced then u and can ski/assess things differently then you, therefore ski lines safely in different conditions then you. Itís called experience and Cody has more then proven himself on the big screen over the years! The point is u donít have the experience to judge someone with his experience under his belt!

    Just like surfing- newbs cant go to jaws and expect to catch a wave....or should give insight to someone out doing it...

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    Really impressed with Codyís reasoning in his IG comments on why he isnít going to extensively defend his position to ski Superior yesterday.

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    Also, the amount of controversy surrounding this line seems to highlight exactly why BC skiing in the Wasatch is not really the experience of solitude that it should be. Even post ski, youíre having to deal with the hoards hounding you.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDingleberry View Post
    pissing in a sink? fucking rookies. Shit in an oven, then you'll be pro.

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    Props to the project. The book is actually really worth getting for those that don't have it. Pretty cool coffee table porn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackstraw View Post
    A few comments so far are just amusing. Hats off to all pros in all sports responding to assinine questions politely.

    First, Cody is a fucking pro skier and has been for how long? He's been around more pro avi forecasters and has more real life experience than most people. So you're questioning him? Who are you again?

    The shit in ski porn is not how pros ride every line, especially in a project like this one.

    The kook on twit asking him what binding he's going to ride? Geez, I wonder...

    Have fun knocking these off!
    Wasn't questioning him at all. Just thought he might ski it super fast but he has good judgements and skied according to conditions dictated. Surprised more people weren't skiing up there yesterday. In my mind it was pretty good to go. We plugged over 15 howitzer rounds into the face in the 24 hours before he skied it. Only slide of any note was in 2 trees day of storm.


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    Quote Originally Posted by yeahman View Post
    I think Fifty Classic Climbs of North America set the precedent for that by including a few climbs that were incredibly aesthetic but remote and difficult enough that they rarely if ever get climbed. I believe there is even one route in the book that has never been repeated.
    Good stuff, thanks for the explanation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Looking at that face of Robson, it's understandable why it's only been skied three times. Probably very, very, very few opportunities to ski when the conditions are right - and then you need the balls and skills. Toughest descent on the list?
    July, 1989 found my future wife and I walking up under the face to camp and ski it. It was now dark, raining hard, thunder and lightening.
    During bursts of lightning we saw the face running as wet points, hoping they wouldn't bridge / jump the bergschrunds as we were pretty close.
    Morning found the face with one 'lil ribbon of snow on the ice, temps well above freezing, and us tired from drying boots over the stove hoping for a freeze. Down we went.
    In the bad light the wet and weak crevasse bridges were hard to see and excitement was had.
    After crossing the Robson River in spate we met the two Robson rangers on duty and spent that night in their warm, dry hut.
    We learned from them amongst many things that the best timing for what we were attempting was mid September, give or take.
    Exactly one year to the day of this event our first was born, and I hung up my spax (ski pole / ice axe).
    Resolved to not climb or ski ice climbs unroped anymore. No regrets.
    In my opinion the north face of Robson is the biggest cherry in the Rockies.
    And totally reasonable for a great skier / climber when its in condition.
    An uncontrolled fall on it does not necessitate death...when its in condition.
    Without flying in however, the approach is very real. If you don't cross Berg Lake in a boat, the thrash going around it with skis is a trying time in itself.

    Cody I've skied some on the list, and many that aren't. Not a big believer of lists, but sure am of goals. (Not a bad list, btw)
    Always admired your skill set, philosophy, and humor. You are the first one to make fun of yourself. Love that part of you...
    This will be a goal in the digital age that many of us will be able to share; thanks for sharing it.
    Oh, and have fun.
    pm me if I can help you in this quest...
    btw you know my now 28 yr old baby well.
    Time spent skiing cannot be deducted from one's life.

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