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01-20-2019, 08:53 AM #101
We had a relatively small inbounds slide at a ski area where I was patrolling and the debris was visible from the chair lift. And the debris covered a traverse that returns to the base from a side country run. This ski area has an extremely high percentage of beacon users because they are required to hit the easily accessible side county.
I was first on scene from the top and was trying to do a beacon search and it was next to impossible to do a proper search because so many people kept coming with their beacons on. I am good with a beacon but was reading like ten to fifteen at once, I would get them to turn off but five more would show up.
It was great they all wanted to help and we utilized them in the probe line but way too many beacon on. It added so much time to doing a proper search. Turns out no one was buried but it was a seriously hard situation to control.
Thoughts to all involved and especially the family and friends of the injured and deceased.
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01-21-2019, 11:41 AM #102Registered User
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Sounds like the second skier who was buried has passed away now. From Vail. Sad
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01-21-2019, 12:24 PM #103
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01-21-2019, 12:31 PM #104
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01-21-2019, 12:45 PM #105Registered User
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01-22-2019, 11:06 AM #106
RIP. Condolences to family and friends.
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01-22-2019, 11:08 AM #107
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01-22-2019, 01:02 PM #108Registered User
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"Optical wavelength, in which LiDAR operates, penetrates only a few cm into dry snow. Prokop (2008) and later Deems et al. (2014) showed that avalanches can be identified in repeated LiDAR scans as features that show snow mass balance loss in the starting zone and slide path and mass balance gain in the accumulation zone. The expensive LiDAR instruments generate highly accurate surface models (better than 15 cm), with measurement rates of up to 200,000 points per second. This is, to date, the most accurate way to map masses moved by snow avalanche but it can only cover single slopes. However, the fast measurement rates allow for short, energy efficient surveys, making long lasting campaigns feasible"
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01-22-2019, 02:51 PM #109
Vibes to the two deceased and their families. Also to Taos patrol - while shit can and will happen, they must be tearing themselves up over this. Ugh - I highly recommend avoiding Facebook comments on this story. Welcome to the new world of social media, where you have someone like Rick Armstrong arguing with some shithead gaper bitch from Texas.
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01-22-2019, 10:46 PM #110
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01-23-2019, 05:46 AM #111"When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
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01-23-2019, 10:14 AM #112
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01-23-2019, 10:26 AM #113
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01-23-2019, 11:31 AM #114Registered User
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This is a tough one. Vibes to the victims families and everyone touched by this.
I’ve never considered wearing a beacon inbounds, and I think probably 99+% of resort skiers are the same (except maybe at Bridger).
Maybe that will have to change.
Still, seems like whenever there is an inbounds slide, somebody screwed up. Hope this leads to meaningful changes not just at TSV, but across the industry to make things safer.
I suspect also, there will be lawsuits as a result of this, and hope TSV has sufficient insurance to weather the coming storm.
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01-23-2019, 11:34 AM #115Registered User
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01-23-2019, 11:38 AM #116
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01-23-2019, 11:39 AM #117Registered User
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01-23-2019, 11:42 AM #118Registered User
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01-23-2019, 11:53 AM #119
The NM ski safety act doesn’t mention avalanches specifically:
https://recreation-law.com/2012/01/2...er-safety-act/
But there’s this:
A person who takes part in the sport of skiing accepts as a matter of law the dangers inherent in that sport insofar as they are obvious and necessary. Each skier expressly assumes the risk of and legal responsibility for any injury to person or property which results from participation in the sport of skiing, in the skiing area, including any injury caused by the following: variations in terrain; surface or subsurface snow or ice conditions; bare spots; rocks, trees or other forms of forest growth or debris; lift towers and components thereof, pole lines and snow-making equipment which are plainly visible or are plainly marked in accordance with the provisions of Section 24-15-7 NMSA 1978; except for any injuries to persons or property resulting from any breach of duty imposed upon ski area operators under the provisions of Sections 24-15-7 and 24-15-8 NMSA 1978.
https://coloradosun.com/2019/01/18/s...lawsuits-fail/
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01-23-2019, 12:06 PM #120
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01-23-2019, 12:31 PM #121
I'd think anyplace where avalanche control is a part of normal ski operations is a place were people ought to seriously consider wearing a beacon. We're putting more lifts in to areas where the level of management is higher. It's something a lot of recreational skiers don't think about as a risk in lift served terrain, but should. Maybe denote higher risk, beacon recommended terrain on trail maps and lift corral signage better if we're not going to outright require showing the equipment before boarding those lifts??
Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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01-23-2019, 12:37 PM #122Banned
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01-23-2019, 12:39 PM #123
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01-23-2019, 12:40 PM #124
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01-23-2019, 12:46 PM #125
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