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01-19-2019, 11:37 AM #76
Abasin was testing LIDAR
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01-19-2019, 11:43 AM #77
This is kind of like saying you're actually safer driving 130 mph on a wide open highway than you are going 10 mph in a mall parking lot. It's probably true but in a very loaded way.. way more alert and aware and far fewer other people doing stupid things around you..
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01-19-2019, 11:47 AM #78==================
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01-19-2019, 01:07 PM #79Registered User
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01-19-2019, 01:36 PM #80
when skiing inbounds the goal is always to go out of bounds so pack and beacon are almost always with me and on.
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01-19-2019, 01:38 PM #81Registered User
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01-19-2019, 01:42 PM #82
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01-19-2019, 02:26 PM #83
Common theme developing here is that what used to be OB or side country is being converted to in bounds and lift served, Kachina is a prime example. If it's steep enough, it can break loose. So, makes sense to wear the beacon in those areas regardless of whether it's called in bounds or not. Any bets on when (not if) Highlands Bowl will be lift served??
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01-19-2019, 03:01 PM #84
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01-19-2019, 03:14 PM #85
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here, but Kachina hasn’t been considered OB or side country for many, many years. It’s been inbounds and patrolled at least since the 80s, and probably the 70s, but I’m too lazy to look it up. It’s really not like Highlands bowl in that way.
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01-19-2019, 03:23 PM #86
Under the “can’t hurt” category, I searched around to see if you can buy the RECCO transmitter stickers only == bunch of TGR threads from 06 07, and seem to be available in Europe, but not here?
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01-19-2019, 03:40 PM #87
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01-19-2019, 03:50 PM #88Registered User
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01-19-2019, 03:51 PM #89
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01-19-2019, 04:45 PM #90Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!
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good shit, thanks. I love that all us Frequent Skier Card skiers were essentially free ski packers as soon as the tram and Challenger were open. I KNEW it!!! Ha. It didn't really matter what we thought about ruining our skis though, we'd be at bridger all season as soon as it opened. Our complaint's didn't matter.
Bridger is conservative, and I love that they are, snow lasts longer as things open slowly. Even in their conservatism, I'll point out, they made a mistake by opening the High-T late one record-breaking day. If they didn't Mike would be still alive. I don't hold any grudges, which even I'm surprised that I don't, I'm just making the point that it's impossible for Ski P to be perfect, day after day, decade after decade. Lots of respect to you all who try their best.
Except the assholes, ha.
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01-19-2019, 09:41 PM #92
In-bounds slide at Taos? Kachina Peak
I’m just a jong that spent a winter living in seco, and working at looney tunes and skiing every day but yeah the only thing that has changed is now there’s a lift to access the k-chutes that slid. Perhaps patrol’s sops have changed on kachina since the lift opened but it has been controlled as in bounds terrain for a long time. I remember skiing one of the k chutes with a crater in it ...
I also remember conversations related to wearing transceivers when skiing out there and the general concensus was that dog treats in your ski pants were a better bet...
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkLast edited by Generalstark; 01-19-2019 at 10:15 PM.
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01-19-2019, 10:03 PM #93
Pretty sure Highlands Bowl is also inside of the boundary just like Kachina was before the lift was built there. My point is that they're building lifts in steeper, more difficult and higher avalanche risk terrain than they did last century. So, like Bridger, perhaps requiring proper gear should be the norm instead of the exception to ride the lifts to these higher risk zones.
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01-19-2019, 10:12 PM #94
Highlands bowl was completely closed/OB for like 13 years. Kachina has never been OB.
https://aspenpeak-magazine.com/heedi...-highland-bowl
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspen_Highlands
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01-20-2019, 08:53 AM #95
In all honesty the beacon requirements at both Big Sky and BB are more of a weeding out barrier than for avalanche hazard. While I agree that more and more access to avalanche prone terrain seems to be in vogue these days if you look back over the past 20-30 years it has been going on at least that long. The Supreme lift at Alta was pretty rowdy terrain when it was 1st installed, same for the Challenger lift at BS (1988) and the Tram (1995).
By requiring beacons you raise the question, "If your mitigation efforts are so good then why do you need the beacon? if you aren't confident in your ability then should that terrain be open?"
And to add, the reports are that the rescue response had both victims out in under 30 minutes. That is a really fast response time to a chaotic event.
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01-20-2019, 09:18 AM #96
The runout for that slide is no more than a couple hundred flattish feet from a patrol station at the top of lift 4, and there is a patrol station at the top of the Kachina lift, and unless it’s storming the field of view for that spot is excellent, so the response time for 2-4 fully equipped trollers could hardly be shorter.
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01-20-2019, 09:27 AM #97
We've been skiing high avi inbounds terrain for years. Kachina has always been inbounds hike-to terrain. Now is there pressure, real or perceived, to open it sooner with a lift? I think most likely not, but certainly a question by many.
I rarely went to Kachina when the lifts were spinning. The steeper more fun terrain has way less vert. West Basin ftw.
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01-20-2019, 09:42 AM #98
I was there in 1998 but only for a day. I remember staring at it lusting.. thinking how great it looked. But, after skiing as much of the lift served terrain as I could before my legs were mush there was no way hahaha. That was definitely a go get it early when you're still fresh for the hike scenario. I did hit something to the right of Lift 2 probably Spitfire or Oster, something in the middle over there. Had to drop a large cornice to get in and there were decent leftovers there that day. Fun stuff and absolutely as steep as anything I've ever skied.
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01-20-2019, 09:46 AM #99
I always wear my beacon, and carry a small pack w probe, shovel and other necessities when I ski inbounds....
But I only ski Loveland and bootlick the Ridge as much as possible. And we know they have slides up there every winter despite the control work patrol does. Between that factor and treewells, deep snow, skiing alone mostly, I’d prefer to err on the side of caution and be equipped just in case even at the resort...
And it’s good training for AK! 🤣
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01-20-2019, 09:53 AM #100
I was helping run a beacon park yesterday for a buncha sledders and had one group tell me their Garmin Rhino is basically capable of the same thing as a beacon. It does show your location or your buddies location pretty precisely, as they demonstrated. But, your buddy has to have 'checked in' in order to be seen, and you prolly can't 'check in' under a few feet of debris..
When I asked them about battery life they happily said it lasted all day, maybe two, to which I replied I put in new beacon batteries end of November, have turned it on every day, and am still reading over 90%. We did another beacon search drill after that.
The problem isn't that the technology isn't close, it's that people (read: general public) think it should already be there. Wear your beacon in avy terrain, pleaseI think the potato gun proved the stability.
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