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12-18-2020, 05:49 AM #376
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12-18-2020, 04:49 PM #377
I recall @doebedoe had some wide 'pons on some CD 104s with Vipecs which he took on a Euro hut tour two years ago. They were quite a bit wider than the skis (115? 120?).
I recall him reporting reduced fun factor, and that he thought the wider crampons torqued on the binders. I can't recall if he mentioned reduced comfort on traverses, or other details.
Regarding torquing on the binders (potential point of stress/failure), I can't say, but I can't visualize increased stress by using a wide crampon on a narrower ski than it's intended for. The contact points are the same, irrespective of ski width: the crampon mount and the ice/snow.
Are you getting out this year? I'm shut down due to a immune challenges in the household.
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12-18-2020, 07:50 PM #378
^ Sidehilling, the too-wide cramp gets twsted horizontally and really torques the mount.
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12-18-2020, 08:07 PM #379
The (new) wife and I will be doing just tours this year. We are new to CO and it seems like a good way to learn the land. Won't be visiting resorts.
We moved into an apartment from our house in Montana and I am going crazy without my shop. I bought her new tech binders and skis. How am I supposed to mount these? In our living room?? Barbarian
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12-18-2020, 08:14 PM #380
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12-18-2020, 08:29 PM #381
I'd expect that (torquing of the mount) to be a function of crampon width irrespective of ski width ... no? IOW, a ski does nothing to support the crampon or the mount, but yes ... getting as narrow of a crampon as possible is never a bad thing (apart from swap-ability).
In normal years, I'd say drive down the road a piece to drill some holes. Ah ... but these aren't normal times, and no one has set foot in our doorway since March. It's a delicate situation here, and even getting out in the BC this year will be touch and go. PM me if you're really in a bind (pun intended) and maybe we can work something out.
... ThomGalibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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12-20-2020, 11:41 PM #382
There's some flex in crampons and the mounts, so if you've got a really close fit and you're sidehilling, the uphill blade pulls the crampon sideways enough that the other blade hits the ski and limits the twisting load on the mount. But if the fit isn't close, the mount takes all the load, all the time when sidehilling. Not a big deal, just an observation. If you're not sidehilling, it doesn't matter if the crampon is a lot wider than the ski, but never sidehilling seems unrealistic.
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12-21-2020, 05:44 PM #383Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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01-01-2021, 08:02 PM #384Registered User
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My new replacement Xenic toes have seen a few days on snow now. Night and day difference as far as the toe lever, the new ones are so much easier to toggle between ski mode and walk mode.
Fingers crossed they stay that way...
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01-03-2021, 07:02 PM #385
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01-03-2021, 09:13 PM #386Registered User
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01-04-2021, 03:16 AM #387
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04-28-2021, 02:55 AM #388Registered User
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04-28-2021, 02:28 PM #389Registered User
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I used the standard heel plate, four wood screws.
I don’t remember the exact specs on the toes, but basically the Xenic holes were centered lengthwise between the Tecton holes. The SkiMo binding guide is always a handy reference for this, in addition to the paper templates found on this forum.
https://skimo.co/tech-binding-hole-patterns
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05-11-2021, 01:12 PM #390
Alright, it's been a full season on the new toes. What's the verdict?
90% of skiing is just looking cool
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02-15-2022, 08:59 AM #391
About to buy some Xenics (as ATK is sold out) throuhg BD. All good nowadays with the toe piece?
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02-15-2022, 09:12 AM #392
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02-16-2022, 08:45 AM #393
i like mine still. low fiddle factor and ski gud. under the radar binding at good price. people dont like the plastic
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11-03-2022, 10:59 PM #394skidzmarkz
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heya xenic dudes,
jumped on the plastic train this year, but now need a xenic binding template to get these bad boys onto my sticks.
anyone have a xenic binding template?
i’d also be very interested in a set of 1/4” shims. after reading this thread, it seems inserts + M5 screws are the way to roll there.
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11-03-2022, 11:17 PM #395
Toe holes centers
Width: 43.88mm, length: 33.12mm
(pin line is 15.81mm behind front hole center)
Heel hole centers
Width: 18.04mm, length: 60.32mm
Hole distances from midsole
(for 26.5 ZeroG Tour Pro (300mm BSL), positioned to also be able to use 27 Scarpa Alien RS or F1-LT)
Toe 152.69 - 119.57 - midsole line - 127mm - 187.32 - Heel
Round to nearest mm if you're not using a mill with DRO. Adjust distances as needed for your BSL, and definitely do a test mount on a 2x4 to confirm.Last edited by 1000-oaks; 11-04-2022 at 12:13 PM.
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11-04-2022, 10:24 AM #396
Here's the Wild Snow template:
https://www.wildsnow.com/backcountry...ate-1-2019.pdf
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01-02-2023, 08:42 AM #397
Has the heel riser stayed the same height? Anyone modified it to be taller? I recall that being a complaint from some.
Personally, with good ROM boots, I prefer a moderate height riser but these would be for the GF & she likes tallish risers.
In the Alpinist thread I posted pics of my riser mod (works great) but even with that mod she wishes hers were taller.
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01-03-2023, 11:56 AM #398Registered User
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I've been envisioning some options for a heel riser modification. Drill a small hole in the riser and screw something in. Or maybe cut something to match the profile and try epoxy. Although it looks like you'd have to be careful to always flip the riser down when going into ski mode or you would hit the heel (and likely break the riser extension off).
I'm about to mount a set and I suspect I will end up adding a shim to the toes which will make the Xenic's heel riser even lower...still debating whether this is all worth it or if I should just sell them and buy some other bindings.
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01-07-2023, 02:11 PM #399Registered User
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Does anyone know if it is possible to get the replacement toe levers, without first breaking the bindings?
I haven’t broken anything yet, but I would would like to replace the original toe levers.
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01-07-2023, 05:01 PM #400Registered User
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