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11-12-2019, 10:38 AM #151
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11-12-2019, 01:06 PM #152Galibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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11-12-2019, 02:22 PM #153
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11-12-2019, 07:38 PM #154
I doubt I'll ever do it, but if you were to report back that you used garden variety double sided, I might be tempted to bust out some VHB the next time I was in a mount conundrum.
... ThomGalibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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11-12-2019, 09:38 PM #155
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11-12-2019, 10:18 PM #156
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11-13-2019, 11:39 PM #157
Soooo...I havent really chimed in on the heights, but the Seattle Bird will confirm I mentioned to him, that I also get different heights than Jon et al. My measured pin heights are exactly in line with Lou.
Granted, my methods dont measure to the pin, which IMO is not predictable and not consistent. I focus only on the delta from fixed points (not bottom of boot, which is subject to boot shape, but top of boot toe, and top of boot heel). What I found was, with the same pair of boots:
4mm of toe shim brings the Xenic in line with the tecton
2mm of toe shim brings the Xenic in line with the Vipec
These match Lou's numbers exactly.
Looking at the Xenic with a boot in it, it doesnt look crazy. I'll snap a pic tomorrow.
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11-13-2019, 11:42 PM #158
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11-13-2019, 11:48 PM #159
Thanks. Those are the numbers everyone's interested in. The differential from Vipec & Tecton.
One reason I like using the pins as a reference is because it's boot independent.
Measuring all 3 bindings with your boot obviously accomplishes the same thing for this instance.
Of course, if I'm trying to cross correlate to a pair of Wardens and Attack ATs, I'll use the height from the toe and boot ledge to the ski. It's easier to reference than the fittings on the boot.
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... ThomLast edited by galibier_numero_un; 11-14-2019 at 01:30 AM.
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11-14-2019, 10:36 AM #160
I reiterate time and time again that what matters is, for ramp angle, that what matters is Delta with boot in binding and that's because every boot is different due to there being no standard for toe and heel height for tech boots. But people want that pin height measurement so I give it.
Haven't mounted Xenic yet to check against the fleet of boots
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11-14-2019, 11:56 AM #161Registered User
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Well that's because you can extrapolate out from pin heights (even this BFA major can do that). Getting measurements off boots isn't helpful unless you have the exact same boot and size.
TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.
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11-14-2019, 12:00 PM #162
I can't speak for others, but it's because every boot is different that I'm interested in pin heights. I can translate it directly to both delta and stack height - having no interest in someone's boots that I may never use.
Since my BSL isn't changing by any significant amount, I don't need ramp angle in degrees.
Any BSL difference from a boot change will likely be swamped by so many design differences in the boot, that I might be starting over anyway - especially if I'm comparing what works for me in both a shorter Spring boot and my Zero Gs, for example.
... ThomLast edited by galibier_numero_un; 11-14-2019 at 04:16 PM.
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11-14-2019, 04:50 PM #163
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11-15-2019, 05:29 PM #164
You better believe it! I’m in a hurry nowhere lol
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11-15-2019, 05:30 PM #165
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11-16-2019, 05:09 PM #166
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11-16-2019, 09:23 PM #167Registered User
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Possibly Stupid idea but could work... The pic below is a swiss cheese ski in my possession (the bottoms look just as bad). The inserts are for vipec/tecton toes. If my reading comprehension is any good (that's a big if) the Xenic toe will fit inside of the vipec toe. Would I be insane to add another set of toes for the xenics here? They would mostly be used as a loaner ski for friends who would value the lighter weight. Basically looking for confirmation that the xenic probably won't get to close to the other plugged holes (anyone have the template handy yet?) or confirmation that my friends should get their own gear.
Last edited by davjr96; 11-17-2019 at 06:32 PM.
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11-16-2019, 10:52 PM #168
margotron - that looks awesome. well done.
What did you use for the plate material, and where did you get it?sproing!
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11-17-2019, 06:27 PM #169
@spyderJ - shoulda known your measures to be right. They’re ALWAYS right
@mm - it’s “RTIC Cutting Board Divider” lol. 4.5mm. I sacrificed the divider from my cooler (like yeti) because the plastic is perfect composition. Not too soft, not too brittle.
I hit em with some rattlecan and it all looks pretty decent. For $20 you can get the divider on amazon. Get the 65liter because it’s the biggest. Prolly make shims for 4 sets of bindings.
Gonna drive out to the beartooths next weekend and get a skin in. Can’t wait.
My thoughts on the xenic from the garage:
1. Weight is right. Sub 300g w/o brake
2. Plastic everywhere. Similar to tecton.
3. SO easy to use. Front lever, stepping into, tower spin, riser flip. Love it.
4. Single riser - idk. It bothers me on the Shift. It will probably bother me here. I do have the power now to dial in the height of the lone riser which is neat
5. They don’t feel cheap, they feel engineered. They do not feel bomber tho.
6. They scream “ski me” like P18s do. It’s awesome.
This is an experiment for me. I usually lean towards more features/options. Xenic is the opposite. Definitely a KISS binding
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11-17-2019, 06:29 PM #170
Can’t see the photo but I say drill.
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11-17-2019, 06:34 PM #171Registered User
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11-19-2019, 09:53 AM #172Registered User
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PSA: Bindings are currently $322 on the site that shall not be named, with 12% cashback on activejunky = ~$285. Pretty good deal depending on your moral stance in regards to trademark lawyers.
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11-20-2019, 11:28 AM #173
margotron - very well done on the toe riser.
this is likely a very dumb question, but having never had to cut a plastic cutting board down to size, what tools did you use? i would love to replicate the same thing you did.
ALTERNATIVELY, if there are mags out there that are handy with cutting things and shit, i would 100% pay for both the cutting board thingy and a nice bottle of whiskey if someone could help fabricate these guys.
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11-20-2019, 12:32 PM #174
.Your best bet is to hook up with a local maggot who has the few necessary tools - bring beer and a sacrificial sanding belt of the right size, and get mentored. You'll be put to work. Trimming them to look tidy is thankless work. UHMW clogs up sanding belts.
I use a jig saw with a fairly fine tooth blade, and a belt sander to clean things up l. Use a cleaning stick frequently, as the plastic quickly clogs the belt.
For those who live in a decent size town, look up a plastic fabrication shop. Odds are that they'll let you rummage through their scrap bin for some free UHMW.
... ThomGalibier Designcrafting technology in service of music
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11-20-2019, 02:02 PM #175
Yeah exactly. A jigsaw with a "clean" blade (cuts on the way up and down, makes cleaner cuts) and a belt sander were my tools. You can do without the belt sander but having one makes life easy. You can save yourself some cuts if you use the straight edge on the plastic. I took the xenic toe and traced it on the plastic, then clamped the plastic to my bench and sawed.
ive made some real ghetto risers in the past. like gorilla tape on top of wax scrapers ghetto. Didnt even trim the scrapers, just used the whole rectangle.
I say go for it! Use the whole sheet of plastic if you need. Itll be fun. Once you're done, you'll feel proud and accomplished whether theyre ugly or pretty. Not everyone is this way, but for me, and i think Thom, there's a feeling of pride and satisfaction when everything clicks and you're the one that made it come together.
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