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  1. #301
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    It's so "un" Fritschi-like.

    I checked my Plum Guides. They have them.

    My BD Helio 200s (ATK Haute Route) don't.

    I thought it was a tech binding, defacto standard.

    ... Thom
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  2. #302
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    I was thinking the same. Figured they all had it. Still may get some atk's for my new, to me, 108 steeple!!

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  3. #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinch View Post
    I was thinking the same. Figured they all had it. Still may get some atk's for my new, to me, 108 steeple!!

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    A wuz gonna ask you if you got them. Good on ya! I caught that ad about 2 hours too late. My bank account thanks you ;-)

    ... Thom
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  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    A wuz gonna ask you if you got them. Good on ya! I caught that ad about 2 hours too late. My bank account thanks you ;-)

    ... Thom
    I waivered then couldnt stop thinking about them. Been looking for a pair for soo long i figure i better suck it up or it will torment me. Was thinking of putting xenics on them but that sport conrad deal on the atk's makes more sense for them i think

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  5. #305
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinch View Post
    I waivered then couldnt stop thinking about them. Been looking for a pair for soo long i figure i better suck it up or it will torment me. Was thinking of putting xenics on them but that sport conrad deal on the atk's makes more sense for them i think

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    Could you get Sport Conrad shipped to USA or are you elsewhere?

  6. #306
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaliBrit View Post
    Could you get Sport Conrad shipped to USA or are you elsewhere?
    I havent tried. A german guide buddy visits annually with a group. I was going to check with him. Not even sure if he is this year

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  7. #307
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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    It's so "un" Fritschi-like.

    I checked my Plum Guides. They have them.

    My BD Helio 200s (ATK Haute Route) don't.

    I thought it was a tech binding, defacto standard.

    ... Thom
    seem to recall the snow cleaning pin grooves are a dynafit patent.
    not sure how it explains the plum guides - maybe they paid a license?

  8. #308
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    Xenic and Tecton toe mounts with inserts... additional holes but pin position is exactly the same for the two bindings. Heel tracks left mounted with wood screws in the ski, should be able the use the worm screw track for either heel piece as desired.

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  9. #309
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGamms View Post
    Xenic and Tecton toe mounts with inserts... additional holes but pin position is exactly the same for the two bindings. Heel tracks left mounted with wood screws in the ski, should be able the use the worm screw track for either heel piece as desired.

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    Good one. Thanks. I forgot to measure when i put my xenics on(used my jigarez with tecton plates)

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  10. #310
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    Quote Originally Posted by TG View Post
    seem to recall the snow cleaning pin grooves are a dynafit patent.
    not sure how it explains the plum guides - maybe they paid a license?
    I was thinking this was a Dynafit patent too, but can't confirm. Interesting about the Plums...

  11. #311
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    Ions and Zeds definitely have snow cleaning grooves too.

  12. #312
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    Update on my broken toepiece, BD sent me a replacement, visually I can't tell a difference but the serial numbers are coded differently, broken one is 110****, new one is R1****. I'm hoping to get out on them by this weekend and will see if the new one is as tough to lock as the original.
    "High risers are for people with fused ankles, jongs and dudes who are too fat to see their dick or touch their toes.
    Prove me wrong."
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  13. #313
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    Any updates? My toe is damn stiff


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  14. #314
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    I got out for a few laps on the new toe, it was relatively warm (20s F) and both toes engaged with only a mildly-unreasonable amount of force. I couldn't tell the difference between the new and old without looking at the little mark I scored on one of them to differentiate.
    "High risers are for people with fused ankles, jongs and dudes who are too fat to see their dick or touch their toes.
    Prove me wrong."
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  15. #315
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    I finally actually got the Xenic's on snow... (They were mounted just before shit hit the fan and I'm not a ski town local). Lockout was absolutely brutal to engage, had to pull with both hands - it was in the high 20s out. I'm going to need to figure something out or talk to BD. Crampons work great but have nowhere to attach to a pack for carrying... Any thoughts? Drilling a hole in them for a carabiner frowned upon? Otherwise skied and toured well, no issues getting the boot in or out.

  16. #316
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    Yeah you'd be fine with a hole (tons of dynafit style crampons have holes in them. But having the cowbells stuck to the outside of your pack isn't a good look :P
    TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.

  17. #317
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    Did you ever try to push down slightly on the tab that says “ski” in the gap in the lever while pulling up on the lever? This solved the problem for me.

  18. #318
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    Quote Originally Posted by TG View Post
    seem to recall the snow cleaning pin grooves are a dynafit patent.
    not sure how it explains the plum guides - maybe they paid a license?
    I think its like the handle on a hammer that does not need a license agreement

    if you see a skier move the boot/tech binding/ski back and forth a few times before clicking down the heel
    they know what snow cleaning grooves are and use them

    IME most tech users don't know snow cleaning grooves exist/ don't use them
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  19. #319
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    Quote Originally Posted by happyskifriend View Post
    Did you ever try to push down slightly on the tab that says “ski” in the gap in the lever while pulling up on the lever? This solved the problem for me.
    I did try this right after posting actually. I threw one toe in the freezer and the other left out. It was still harder than the warm one but definitely made it doable. Will keep in mind next tour.

  20. #320
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    A ski binding will be affected by cold but mostly it will be lubricated by snow and or water
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  21. #321
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    Thoughts on pairing the Faction Agent 3.0 (1810g) with the Xenic?

  22. #322
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    So did they ever address all the issues with the Xenic?
    90% of skiing is just looking cool

  23. #323
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    I don't believe so. I warrantied mine last month and they suggested I swap to the Helio because any replacement would have the same issue. I took the credit and am already happier with the Helio's just on the workbench.

  24. #324
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    Bummer, I'm in the market for a 300g bindings and the sale pricing for the Xenics is tempting. Too bad there's so many issues.
    90% of skiing is just looking cool

  25. #325
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    Quote Originally Posted by davjr96 View Post
    I don't believe so. I warrantied mine last month and they suggested I swap to the Helio because any replacement would have the same issue. I took the credit and am already happier with the Helio's just on the workbench.
    How much did that cost you to upgrade to Helio?
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