1kg Boot thread

[fleaches]

Can anybody reasonably sort these by downhill skiing performance?

I'm in heavily punched tlt7s that have never really fit my feet. Looking at an 10-day-ish traverse this spring so it's probably worth actually buying a boot that fits! Just a liiiiittle more lateral stiffness and fore-aft support would go a long way over the 7s. Seems like any of these boots will skin comparably. I daily drive moment wildcat 108s with them and can have fun on bmt 122s, as well. I have a 110mm forefoot, narrow heel, average instep

If you have wide feet I'd definitely cross the f1 lt off that list. It's narrow and tough to punch from what I understand.

Tlt x, summit, and 0g peak are all higher volume fits. I have wide feet and tried them all on and thought any of them would work with some punching.

My guess is that 0g peak and summit will ski pretty similarly based on side by side carpet flexing. Tlt x is definitely a little softer and has a more wiggly walk mode lock, but nobody seems to have the blacklight version which might be stiffer.

I ended up with the peak because it fit a little better. They do, however, run nearly a full size short.

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[kamtron]

Have you tried a Backland carbon? I have "normal" width feet but always need a 6th toe punch to be able to spread my toes, and they work well for me. Heel hold isn't great, but they ski ok. Durable

[Climber Joe]

I’ve got some dynafit TLT 8s I’d like a comfier liner tongue in. How easy is it to Jerry rig something? I’d rather attach some extra foam or something to the tongues than swap liners, but I might end up doing that eventually anyway.

Anyone done something like that?

[Jongle]

I’ve got some dynafit TLT 8s I’d like a comfier liner tongue in. How easy is it to Jerry rig something? I’d rather attach some extra foam or something to the tongues than swap liners, but I might end up doing that eventually anyway.

Anyone done something like that?

Those stock liners are so thin and flimsy. I attached some foam to the tongues on mine with double-sided tape, but it only helped a little. There was still so much room elsewhere in the shell that I swapped in a pair of Pro Tours before taking them on snow. That made a huge difference, upgrading to GFTs last season made an even bigger difference.

[madriverfreeride]

Anyone had a chance to try on both the mtn summit and the 2023 backland carbon (no boa)?

Looking for which one has a smaller ankle pocket/ better ankle hold. Currently have dynafit radical pro and lange xt3 lv and end up touring in the lange way more because they fit way better. Swimming quite a bit in the radical, and figured I may as well go lighter in my actual touring boot since the crossover is working decent for me for shorter days.

Open to other suggestions as well, but I tried on the f1lt, one of the zer g peaks, and the dalbello quantum, all had too much room in the ankle, can’t find either the backland or the summit to try on.

Backlands seem to generally be the lowest volume, but I’ve heard the ankle on the summit is actually decently snug, and I don’t mind the wide forefoot.

And yes I know these boots are both a little over 1kg but the ski ability seems more what I’m after for driving skis around 100 underfoot

[Tjaardbreeuwer]

Anyone had a chance to try on both the mtn summit and the 2023 backland carbon (no boa)?

Looking for which one has a smaller ankle pocket/ better ankle hold. Currently have dynafit radical pro and lange xt3 lv and end up touring in the lange way more because they fit way better. Swimming quite a bit in the radical, and figured I may as well go lighter in my actual touring boot since the crossover is working decent for me for shorter days.

Open to other suggestions as well, but I tried on the f1lt, one of the zer g peaks, and the dalbello quantum, all had too much room in the ankle, can’t find either the backland or the summit to try on.

Backlands seem to generally be the lowest volume, but I’ve heard the ankle on the summit is actually decently snug, and I don’t mind the wide forefoot.

And yes I know these boots are both a little over 1kg but the ski ability seems more what I’m after for driving skis around 100 underfoot

I tried them both on. They are complete opposites fit wise.
I bought the Backland, because they fit my feet better than any ski boot I’ve ever tried. The Summit was so wrong for my foot shape that I didn’t spend much time trying it. I have narrow feet, both in the ankle, heel and forefoot. I get snug ankle hold, and a touch of room in the heel with all over thin socks in the Backland. Using socks with heel padding helps me there.
I had Quantum’s before this, one size bigger, and the ankle was maybe a tiny bit looser.
ZG Peak was pretty good fit for me too.
Note, I am talking about the shells only. When trying on the boots, I used my already molded Palau liners, to get an apples to apples comparison of the shells.

Basically, I did not notice a big difference in ankle fit. Especially because all these can be snugged up with a buckle around the ankles.
The bigger fit differences were the toe box, forefoot width and instep height, although with all these open top boots, that’s less of an issue.

[madriverfreeride]

I tried them both on. They are complete opposites fit wise.
I bought the Backland, because they fit my feet better than any ski boot I’ve ever tried. The Summit was so wrong for my foot shape that I didn’t spend much time trying it. I have narrow feet, both in the ankle, heel and forefoot. I get snug ankle hold, and a touch of room in the heel with all over thin socks in the Backland. Using socks with heel padding helps me there.
I had Quantum’s before this, one size bigger, and the ankle was maybe a tiny bit looser.
ZG Peak was pretty good fit for me too.
Note, I am talking about the shells only. When trying on the boots, I used my already molded Palau liners, to get an apples to apples comparison of the shells.

Basically, I did not notice a big difference in ankle fit. Especially because all these can be snugged up with a buckle around the ankles.
The bigger fit differences were the toe box, forefoot width and instep height, although with all these open top boots, that’s less of an issue.

Good to know, does the new lower buckle design on the backland push the ankle into the pocket decently well? I found the boa on the last design didn’t cut it for me, thats why the summit was intriguing since they claim some sort of ankle band helps keep you in place.

[Tjaardbreeuwer]

Good to know, does the new lower buckle design on the backland push the ankle into the pocket decently well? I found the boa on the last design didn’t cut it for me, thats why the summit was intriguing since they claim some sort of ankle band helps keep you in place.

Not really, the Z cable buckle on the Backland is in a pretty normal, forward place on the instep.
Scarpa Maestrale and Salomon Mtn Summit have that ‘ankle strap’ like a snowboard binding, that pushes your foot back.
Basically the current Backland just has a beefier closure, but in the same spot.
I went and ride it on (last skied this afternoon) just now, and ankle is nice an snug on my skinny ankle, but the Z cable just tightens on top of the instep.

So if that’s what you are looking for,
It sounds like a Mtn Summit would be better worth for you ordering somewhere and trying on. If it fits pretty well, you will not have to worry about Backland any more, they are so very different.