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  1. #26
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    My old/backup shovel is a G3 Avitech. Still solid. Circa 2005 it was between that and the T6 Telepro.

    New shovel as of two seasons ago is a BD Evac 7. Compared to the G3, it has hoe mode and I like the slightly rubberized d-handle (versus straight plastic on the G3) and the shape of the shaft preventing twisting for faster lengthening. Blade strength/stiffness seems to be about the same based on my observations. Shaft on the BD doesn't seem quite as beefy as the G3, but no idea if that means anything.

    Probe is similar. Have an old G3 320cm probe. Solid. Strong. But with the slower-deploying twist mechanism to lock it. Newer probe is is a BD Quickdraw Carbon 320cm. I like the lock mechanism better. Seems as strong as the G3.
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    I realize there is not much hope for a bullfighting forum. I understand that most of you would prefer to discuss the ingredients of jacket fabrics than the ingredients of a brave man. I know nothing of the former. But the latter is made of courage, and skill, and grace in the presence of the possibility of death. If someone could make a jacket of those three things it would no doubt be the most popular and prized item in all of your closets.

  2. #27
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    Another vote for ortovox kodiak. Blade not quite as big as my old voile, but packs so much better. Also experience the same issue with snow plugging up the hoe vs shovel openings, but it hasn’t overly frustrated me on any exercise yet.

  3. #28
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    Thanks dudes. The BD and Ortovox look perpect. I'll ask my wife to see which one coordinates with her mittens.

  4. #29
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    Whatever shovel you get, make sure it doesn't have a neck, otherwise will be a pain in the ass to put in your pack.

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  5. #30
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    Voile Telepro
    Ortovox Alu 320
    Mystery Ranch Patrol 35 for bonus points

  6. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP INTRO View Post
    G3 SpadeTech with D-handle. There is even a womens specific shovel from G3 called the Elle....Jan's recently had them on sale.
    Nobody over 5ft should use a spade. Even then. Shit randoracer shovel.

    Show with that and we can trade shovels for the day or not tour avalanche terrain.

    Yes I've used it.

    G3 avitec is a great choice, my choice. Ortovox, Mammut and BCA have some great choices too.

    Ortovox did a study showing biggest is not always best for blades, but small sucks. There is an optimal size for most.
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  7. #32
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    Mammut is on board with UIAA 156, takes some of the guesswork out of choosing a trustworthy shovel. http://www.mammutavalanchesafety.com...s-new.html?m=1

    Any other manufacturers yet?

  8. #33
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    Here's a kit that doesn't need to be carried in a backpack.
    http://www.privalusa.com/dailykit/

  9. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP INTRO View Post
    Here's a kit that doesn't need to be carried in a backpack.
    http://www.privalusa.com/dailykit/
    20cmX15cm shovel blade? I have soup spoons larger than that!

  10. #35
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    Yeah, please don't buy that tiny Prival piece of shit. Unless you're only going to use it to build sand castles.

  11. #36
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    BCA shovels have offset handles that work fine with mittens and blades with no necks for packability (and strength). Worth a look.


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  12. #37
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    Page 2 and no comments about your wife needing a probe?
    . . .

  13. #38
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    I like the g3 blade. No stats but probably the strongest. D handle and I like the flatter blade both for a pack or pit.
    Long probe and bd and g3 seem to secure fast. Haven’t look at others recently though

  14. #39
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    Now I know what the zipper to flare out the cuff on my pants is for.
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  15. #40
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    I like my BD Evac 7 Shovel. Good quality and moves a lot of snow fast, that’s what you really want in an rescue situation. D handle and has offset so you don’t kill your back digging pits.


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  16. #41
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    Props to Ski Haus in Steamboat. A real ski shop, not too many of those left. Friendly knowledgeable staff that actually know what they are talking about, great selection of good products, competitive prices

    Jones pack
    Adrenelated pro model shovel
    some BCA probe that is long and easy to put together

    Prices good enough

  17. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by SKIP INTRO View Post
    Now I know what the zipper to flare out the cuff on my pants is for.
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    wow
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  18. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    wow
    We should go viral on those guys...
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    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

  19. #44
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    The shovel is named Sierra:

    She’s your best friend for the backcountry. Weighing only 290 grams, she will lighten your load without compromising functionality or strength.
    + Cleanly isolates snow profile pits and cuts blocks to build backcountry booters
    + Serrated edges for cutting through ice and trees
    + Collapsable shaft fits snugly inside handle and blade for supreme packability
    + Ergonomic handle for right or left handed clearing

    Most importantly, she’s accessible and ready in the event of an avalanche emergency. She has the ability to cut, isolate and move large blocks from consolidated avalanche debris very quickly. Sierra wants to stick to the fun stuff though, so help us educate others and practice safe protocols in the backcountry.
    Well maybe I'm the faggot America
    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

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    Quote Originally Posted by plugboots View Post
    + Cleanly isolates snow profile pits and cuts blocks to build backcountry booters
    cringe

  21. #46
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    Is that real?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Is that real?
    http://www.privalusa.com/sierra-shovel/

  23. #48
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    What do you all name your shovels?
    I was thinking Scoopie. To help: https://nickfinder.com/Shovel
    Well maybe I'm the faggot America
    I'm not a part of a redneck agenda

  24. #49
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    At first I though these guys might be Brits given how much they use the word "kit" in their website. And that their product is clearly useless.

    But I was surprised to see they are from Utah. And are sponsors of the Utah Avalanche Center... WTF?
    Quote Originally Posted by Downbound Train View Post
    And there will come a day when our ancestors look back...........

  25. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by mall walker View Post
    Wow. I really thought it was a joke.

    Honestly it’s irresponsible for a company to represent something like that as being effective for avalanche rescue.


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