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Thread: Moment Skis Discussion
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01-25-2020, 08:48 AM #1351Registered User
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I use my 190 WC108 Tour with shifts as my narrow travel ski. They work really well for that as long as I’m not on ice.
They have a bit of a speed limit but honestly it’s a reasonably high one.
With the benefit of hindsight, for my use profile I’d probably have gone regular core or lighter binding but I’m still a skin track JONG.
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01-25-2020, 10:40 AM #1352aerospace eng with a gravity fetish
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01-25-2020, 02:59 PM #1353Registered User
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01-25-2020, 04:17 PM #1354
Moment demo at my hill. Did not get to ski any though. Skis look good and good stoke and vibe from the crew.
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01-26-2020, 09:39 AM #1355
Anyone have any time on the 192 Bibby? Found a pair a the local shop for a pretty sweet price. Don’t need them at all but was considering picking up and trying em out for a day or two but would most likely just keep the binders and sell them here flat. Any thoughts? I’d sell em super cheap obviously but would anyone buy them? Are they good enough to warrant just keeping? In good shape, one core shot repaired (mid ski, no where near an edge).
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01-26-2020, 10:16 AM #1356
First day on my Wildcat 184s on some warm manky pow / variable melted - not the best of conditions to try out what will ultimately be my powder ski in a 3-ski quiver. I was happy with how composed they were through the untracked mank, and how quick they were in the variable, skied-off stuff in the trees. They were surprisingly intuitive right off the bat, and my usually centered stance on all the low-angle stuff at my mountain seemed to work well on them. On my way off the mountain I straight-lined them down one of the steeper groomers here and they were composed the whole way down.
I was most surprised at how different they felt ("ski feel") from previous skis I've been on recently - Black Crows Atris and Anima. They just seem very... composed and planted in comparison. I haven't skied a ski that feels like this before (but I haven't skied many skis to be honest). But when I did fling them around to double bumps or fly off lips, they seemed perfectly happy getting off the ground and I could really feel their lightness in the air. They feel way lighter and smaller than the 116 underfoot and 184 length would otherwise suggest (I'm 155 pounds, 5'10" for reference) - I'm not worried at all about traveling to Canada next week with only these in the ski bag.
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01-27-2020, 06:34 PM #1357Registered User
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The Wildcat 108 tour was one of my choices. Anyone that has ridden it inbounds is the difference in dampness really that noticeable? I'm 5'5 155lbs I wonder if this could work as a inbounds ski as well for me? Could you still charge or would you back off a bit compared to non tour version?
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01-27-2020, 06:45 PM #1358Registered User
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I have skied both versions of the 118 wildcat and the deathwish.
There is a substantial difference. For 50-50 use I would go normal core in the 174cm.
70% touring 30% resort use... still normal core.
80-20 depends on your fitness.
90-10 touring core.
I currently have Deathwish tours that I LOVE touring but really struggle with at the resort. The normal versions are pretty darn light and perform much better going down.
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01-27-2020, 06:55 PM #1359
I own both the WC 108 and the tour version, and have tried the tours inbounds. Yes the difference is absolutely noticeable. However I have 25-30 pounds on you so it would probably be less so for you. But you’d still be able to tell... the regular layup is already pretty light.
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01-27-2020, 06:56 PM #1360
I own the 116 Bibby and the WCT108.
70% resort? Alpine core.
Anything near 50/50? Touring core. At 174cm for your height (kick turns will be easier at this length than 184).
The touring core rocks. I love it inbounds.aerospace eng with a gravity fetish
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01-27-2020, 09:20 PM #1361Registered User
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Can't decide on whether to go for the 190 or 184 wildcats, I'm 6' and 168lbs. Plan to mount some shifts on them and use 70% in bounds and 30% side country/touring. My other ski is 184 Line SFB.
184 would be better for kick turns etc but would like some extra ski in front of me for deep days. Any advice?
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01-28-2020, 01:47 AM #1362Registered User
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Depends on terrain you usually ski and a type of skier you are. At 5'10 and 160lbs I tried both 184 and 190, sold the 190 as they were too demanding for my taste. But I can easily imagine that a powerful skier with racing background same size as me will go with 190 all day long
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01-28-2020, 06:55 AM #1363
I can see why you're torn. For touring I'd definitely want the 184's but since this is also going to be used not only inbounds but also on deep pow days, I'd want the 190's. (I have the 184's and they handle deeper snow fine, but if I didn't have a dedicated pow ski I'd want them longer)
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01-28-2020, 08:28 AM #1364Registered User
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01-28-2020, 10:52 AM #1365Registered User
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Great stoke from the demo team at PowMow last weekend!
Had a great time getting some of my friends to drink the Moment Kool-Aid. Smiles and laughs all around all day long.
Thanks Moment!
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01-28-2020, 11:23 AM #1366Registered User
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01-28-2020, 01:08 PM #1367
I'm trying to work my nose butter game (and not having much success) on 188 PBJs. Are they too stiff, or do I just suck?
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01-28-2020, 01:27 PM #1368Registered User
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01-28-2020, 03:30 PM #1370Registered User
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I bought a pair of Wildcat 190s a couple of months ago and got them out on a 6" and a 12" day at Alta recently for their first two days.
Both days, for the first few runs, I had a difficult time adjusting to a much more forward mount point than I'm used to and often felt like I was going to go over the bars when hitting some deeper snow (mounted them with Pivots on the recommended line). After 3 or so runs, I was able to adjust my stance to ski them more centered, but still had that feeling that I needed to be cautious about going over the bars, and at times skied with my weight a little too far back.
My other softer snow skis right now are Stockli Stormrider 95s and Line Supernatural 108s, both of which I love, and both of which have a more traditional mount point. Maybe that suits my skiing better?
Has anyone moved the mount back on their Wildcats? I generally liked them when I was skiing centered and balanced, but that going over the bars feeling wasn't great. I'm trying to figure out if I just need some time to adjust and it will go away, whether I should move the mount back, or whether another ski is going to be a better fit for me.
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01-28-2020, 03:37 PM #1371
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01-28-2020, 04:23 PM #1372
Some 19/20 Deathwish stoke from MLK weekend...
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01-28-2020, 06:06 PM #1373Registered Useless
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Putting it here before GS - 187 meridians for sale. 2018-19 edition, one mount for salomon wardens, not sure of exact mount but fit my 317 very easily and close to if not on the line. One edge repair right where the edge ends at the base - done at the moment factory and now not noticeable. Comes with the wardens. $275 plus shipping?
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01-28-2020, 09:23 PM #1374Registered User
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Give it a few days on the mountain. I was skiing a more directional skis when I bought the Pb&j (similar construction and shape to the wildcat but narrower 101mm) first few days I was getting a bit frustrated but literally couple of weekends ago it clicked and I just had a ton of fun on them. It takes a little bit getting used to sometimes especially if you used to ski more traditional/directional skis.
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01-29-2020, 07:35 AM #1375Registered User
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