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  1. #801
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    Quote Originally Posted by BC. View Post
    Got an email about the Deathwish today....damn Iím tempted...
    Figured I would post the video here because the Saturn V is so badass.


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    funny because from what I can tell in the youtube video looks like Mars (red-blue anaglyph from the hirise instrument?) images on the top sheets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 406 View Post
    funny because from what I can tell in the youtube video looks like Mars (red-blue anaglyph from the hirise instrument?) images on the top sheets.
    The images are of the moon, from NASA. Red and blue lights were used during filming to accent the red and blue digital glitch effect on the skis.

    See the full topsheet here:

    https://www.momentskis.com/products/deathwish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailwind View Post
    Iíve owned the Meridian 117 and Bibby. The Bibby is a much better mixed conditions ski but the meridian feels dramatically looser in soft snow. I feel like what really sets the Bibby apart is that does so many things well. The Ďsuspensioní of the Bibby is much better over 3D surfaces.

    If you ski centered and are on soft conditions the Meridian will be the ski.

    My main issue with the Meridian was that it never felt long enough. Even in a 187 it felt short at 6í3Ē.

    Iím trying to figure out what i can sell to get the CB 193... it wonít be The Bibby as they ski pretty differently.
    TY- I picked up some 171cm Meridian 117's for early season/late season basically big blades & kiddo duty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    The images are of the moon, from NASA. Red and blue lights were used during filming to accent the red and blue digital glitch effect on the skis.

    See the full topsheet here:

    https://www.momentskis.com/products/deathwish
    Hard for me to tell without higher resolution view of top sheet, but there are gully like features in lunar craters. That would be cool if Moon, because it was likely from the LROC instrument that the company I work for built.

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    Moment Skis Discussion

    I was pretty set on buying a Meridian 117 but then Moment throws a curve ball and brings back the CB! Iíve never skied either, in fact this would be my first full rocker ski. Love the idea of the 117 because first off, I love the width and stiffness as I honestly donít plan on using it as a pow ski at all, obviously a soft snow fun everywhere ski that can charge when asked but I like my DDís in the 115 range and Iím a big dude who like stiffer sticks and bends them pretty well just based on weight and speed. So that being said the shorter taper, 187 length, and stiffer core (I was told the 117 has a stiffer core profile than the Naner from Moment, which is weird because I thought they were the same with the Naner being stiffer by way of width) the 117 still sounds pretty $$$. What I like about the Naner is the length (193) because my understanding is these designs ski quite short, I am very comfy on 190ish skis want these to excel in the fun factor and with the extra taper the length difference sounds fairly moot but not skiing either I really donít know, but Iíd probably give the point to the Naner. Width, I like the 117 as I have dedicated pow skis that I adore and when the snow is deep they will get the call so the 117 gets a point because it seems, on paper anyway, will most likely be better in variable. Stiffness, Iím still not sold the Naner is softer but it would certainly lose a point if there was a noticeable difference, I would def prefer the stiffer of the two. So any info from anyone with exp with either or both would be greatly appreciated! Like I said my emphasis for this stick would be the fun factor, I have other skis for other stuff and def prefer skis closer to the 190 range over skis in the low 180ís. Thanks in advance!
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    Post #741 says CB is stiffer than Meridian because of the extra width. Unless it is just the core he is referring to,

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    Moment Skis Discussion

    The guy on the Moment live chat said he skied a proto 193 last year that was a little planky and really heavy. I got the impression that they tweaked it a little to make it more manageable all around. It didn't sound like they turned it into a noodle.

    Edit: eh.. never mind. Just read #741. Anyway, he also said it's a pretty burly ski, not for the feint of heart. I'm pretty sure it's gonna rawk.

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    Moment Skis Discussion

    Thanks all! Tuco, I knew I had read that somewhere, thanks for finding it. It was also a Moment cat who told me the 117 had a stiffer profile than the CB so idk but my guess is itís the same, leaving Naner stiffer but he had skied both. Lucknau, I donít mind burly per say but donít really care for planky so much, looking for what everyone has said about the Meridian being so damn fun, just trying to decide which one will better fit that bill for me
    Fear, Doubt, Disbelief, you have to let it all go. Free your mind!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskido View Post
    Thanks all! Tuco, I knew I had read that somewhere, thanks for finding it. It was also a Moment cat who told me the 117 had a stiffer profile than the CB so idk but my guess is itís the same, leaving Naner stiffer but he had skied both. Lucknau, I donít mind burly per say but donít really care for planky so much, looking for what everyone has said about the Meridian being so damn fun, just trying to decide which one will better fit that bill for me
    I think you should just decide on the width. From my understanding, they are virtually identical in terms of stiffness, shape, etc. Just 117 vs 122. I'd go wider

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    Quote Originally Posted by HukuTa_KydecHuk View Post
    I think you should just decide on the width. From my understanding, they are virtually identical in terms of stiffness, shape, etc. Just 117 vs 122. I'd go wider
    The advantages of going from 187 to 193 length FAR outweigh any perceived disadvantages going from 117 to 122 width.

    I skied my 194 Ghost Trains (126 width) on a 2-4inch mini pow day. Skied them all day on everything, and found them to be far more versatile than I thought they would be.

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    Or...just ski the Deathwish on everything. IDK, that's what I do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skier666 View Post
    Or...just ski the Deathwish on everything. IDK, that's what I do.
    Yeah, sick vid brodie blue gloves!

    That 193 CB looks soooo sick. Me want.
    sproing!

    FS: 187 Praxis GPO with STH14 binders https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...TH-14-bindings

    FS: crampons, lightweight winter down sleeping bag, and stuff https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...ost?highlight=

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    Quote Originally Posted by skier666 View Post
    Or...just ski the Deathwish on everything. IDK, that's what I do.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by hot.pocket View Post
    CB 186 vs 124 CMD 194:

    Attachment 293594

    CB 193 will have the same full rocker line as the CB 186.
    Thank you hp!
    Quote Originally Posted by eskido View Post
    Thanks all! Tuco, I knew I had read that somewhere, thanks for finding it. It was also a Moment cat who told me the 117 had a stiffer profile than the CB so idk but my guess is it’s the same, leaving Naner stiffer but he had skied both. Lucknau, I don’t mind burly per say but don’t really care for planky so much, looking for what everyone has said about the Meridian being so damn fun, just trying to decide which one will better fit that bill for me
    You're welcome dude! My take is it is the exact same build as Meridian, leaving CB slightly stiffer. If it's same build, I can't see production CB as being any more planky than Meridian.

    On that note...

    Fuck it--- I'm ready to order!
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    I threw down earlier this week.
    Git em, y'all!

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