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  1. #526
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    No.

    There is not a ski in existence that is that light that also does legitimately well in inbounds mank. There's a reason there is a regular layup and a tour layup.
    I agree with toast. No touring ski is going to be a great inbounds charger.

  2. #527
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    The standard meridian layup is already only 2020g a ski in the 187. Seems passable as a 50/50 ski weight to me. Depending on your stats it would probably be better to save weight by going with a 181 than with the lighter core.

  3. #528
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemonhead View Post
    I agree with toast. No touring ski is going to be a great inbounds charger.
    Me three, same goes for binders (although I have yet to try shifts), and boots
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  4. #529
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    While waxing my new this year Deathwish's yesterday I noticed that there was an area on both skis that are base high. No sure why or how I never noticed it before but after putting a true bar on them I was surprised by how high the base was, especially on one of them. So I took a couple of photos and sent them to Moment and asked what they thought, and would I have any issues getting them ground to level them out. Less than an hour later I get a reply, "that is totally unacceptable, we will send you a return label and send you a new pair of skis".

    How's that for great customer service?

  5. #530
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    Thatís awesome.
    Compare that to a company like Rocky Mountain Underground who got famous on this board for having a somewhat different reaction to a similar issue

  6. #531
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    Quote Originally Posted by TeleBeaver View Post
    The standard meridian layup is already only 2020g a ski in the 187. Seems passable as a 50/50 ski weight to me. Depending on your stats it would probably be better to save weight by going with a 181 than with the lighter core.
    Spent about 20 minutes on the phone with Fasa from Moment (great guy) discussing the same thing.
    At that weight the regular layup should be fine for short tours, especially at the 181 length.

  7. #532
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    @roxtar I think you made the right call.

  8. #533
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  9. #534
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    Melee, any updates for cores next year? Will everything be the same? Or are you using different woods?

  10. #535
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    cant speak enough on the quality of moment customer service

  11. #536
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    My daughter is in need of some new skis and demo'd Sierras at Big Sky last week. She loved them - perfectly fit her style (I also love my DW!). I wanted to buy the demo skis, but the shop had someone else who has dibs. Bummer. I've been looking for a used pair of 162s (new is not in the budget right now, unfortunately), but not having a lot of luck. Any suggestions for a similar ski? Kinda playful and pivoty for bumps and trees but able to hold an edge? The dirty mustache is such a unique thing, its hard for me to tell what a decent alternative might be without having her demo them (which isn't in the cards this season). Any suggestions would be appreciated... or any leads on used 162s in good shape. Thanks!

  12. #537
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    Melee, any updates for cores next year? Will everything be the same? Or are you using different woods?
    I can't find it now but I could have sworn Melee said all men's cores are switching to ash. Anyone else remember it or am I making shit up?

  13. #538
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumbIdeasOnly View Post
    I can't find it now but I could have sworn Melee said all men's cores are switching to ash. Anyone else remember it or am I making shit up?
    "I think many of you will be happy to know that for 19/20 almost all the mens skis are moving from an Aspen/Pine core to a Aspen/Ash core, including the Deathwish."

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...15#post5614415

  14. #539
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob D! View Post
    My daughter is in need of some new skis and demo'd Sierras at Big Sky last week.... I've been looking for a used pair of 162s (new is not in the budget right now, unfortunately), but not having a lot of luck. Any suggestions ...?
    Perhaps these are still up for grabs?
    https://www.pugski.com/threads/momen...-13-demo.9785/

  15. #540
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    Quote Originally Posted by kid-kapow View Post
    Perhaps these are still up for grabs?
    https://www.pugski.com/threads/momen...-13-demo.9785/
    Thanks! I'll check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by auvgeek View Post
    Follow up question: has anyone skied the PB&Jib? Comparisons to the Kartel 96?
    Seconded. Anyone here actually skied the PB&Jib?
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  17. #542
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhetherMan View Post
    "I think many of you will be happy to know that for 19/20 almost all the mens skis are moving from an Aspen/Pine core to a Aspen/Ash core, including the Deathwish."

    https://www.tetongravity.com/forums/...15#post5614415
    Does that also include the pb&j and wildcat 118? If so I might cry of happiness

  18. #543
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    Does that also include the pb&j and wildcat 118? If so I might cry of happiness
    Still testing.

    We wouldn't want to change the Wildcat (Bibby) and piss off Blister

  19. #544
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    Still testing.

    We wouldn't want to change the Wildcat (Bibby) and piss off Blister
    I mean they have been hinting at it getting too light

  20. #545
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    I mean they have been hinting at it getting too light
    Blister seems a little obsessed with the heavy side of things lately. I've come to really appreciate lighter skis - in tight or steep spots they're a hell of a lot easier to swing around, especially later in the day when your legs are tired. Some of these new skis coming out that weigh 2500+ grams... no thanks.

    Which core did the Wildcat 108's get?

  21. #546
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Some of these new skis coming out that weigh 2500+ grams... no thanks.
    What are these new 2500+ gram skis you speak of? I want.

  22. #547
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    What are these new 2500+ gram skis you speak of? I want.
    Rossi Black Ops... Okay, I guess they're just under 2500 but close enough. https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...-black-ops-118

  23. #548
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    Rossi Black Ops... Okay, I guess they're just under 2500 but close enough. https://blisterreview.com/gear-revie...-black-ops-118
    Oh, yeah. Saw those. Want them.

  24. #549
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    Dynastar Pro-to too

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    Really like the grain texture on these top sheets. Anxious to get them on snow. Just in time for corn season.

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