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  1. #151
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I thought the whole point of the Meridian 107 was to be a narrower version of the Chipotle Banana. So I'm curious too, because that would mean the Meridian 117 is the wider version of a ski that was the narrower version of a different ski. Which has me confused.
    Yeah I also thought of that... I think skis with waist over 120 are just hard to sell. So they produced a narrower chipotle, then stopped producing original chipotle, and then realized they only have Bibby in over 115 category, so added meridian 117.

  2. #152
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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    I thought the whole point of the Meridian 107 was to be a narrower version of the Chipotle Banana. So I'm curious too, because that would mean the Meridian 117 is the wider version of a ski that was the narrower version of a different ski. Which has me confused.
    The 107 was created as a narrower CB but it was also "tamed" a bit. The CB had radius rocker and was STIFF. The 107 had a touch more sidecut and a more progressive flex pattern. The 117 continues in that vein, it's a narrower CB with a shorter radius and slightly softer flex.

  3. #153
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomFromNS View Post
    The 107 was created as a narrower CB but it was also "tamed" a bit. The CB had radius rocker and was STIFF. The 107 had a touch more sidecut and a more progressive flex pattern. The 117 continues in that vein, it's a narrower CB with a shorter radius and slightly softer flex.
    Ok, that’s helpful. That makes me think the 117 is still a bit inferior to the CB. I guess was hoping that the 117 was the same flex and side cut.


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  4. #154
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    I owned some 117's... I understand that they are still likely less stiff than the CB but... they were by far the stiffest ski I've ever owned. They flex like a 2x4. I found that I would still get kicked around quite a bit in 3D snow but I only weight 165lbs at 6'2". I really would want a 192-194 version... the flex wasn't the issue with it being stable I just wanted a little more ski out front. If I was under 6' or lighter I would likely still own them.

  5. #155
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    I would love a 192 meridian 117

  6. #156
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    I would love a 192 meridian 117
    +1 I would buy that ski in a second. In a similar realm, I just got some Ghost Train 194s and they shred so hard. Compared to the Bibby 190, I thought they would give up a lot of stability in choppy and variable snow, but I didn't see that much of a difference. And the full rocker makes them SO much better in pow.

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  7. #157
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    Agree entirely... the 187cm Meridian feels a little short compared to the 190cm Bibby. Something in the low 190's would still be super quick but I think it's always that question for a company of how many people will really step up to buy them.

    I've heard they will be bringing back a 194 Ghost Train as a limited release for next season.

    Quote Originally Posted by mr_pretzel View Post
    I would love a 192 meridian 117

  8. #158
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomFromNS View Post
    The 107 was created as a narrower CB but it was also "tamed" a bit. The CB had radius rocker and was STIFF. The 107 had a touch more sidecut and a more progressive flex pattern. The 117 continues in that vein, it's a narrower CB with a shorter radius and slightly softer flex.
    Woah. So CB is that stiff? I thought they are like meridian or even softer. I handflexed meridian 107 and they are stout

  9. #159
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    “Currently working on a regular Wildcat 108 for testing”

    -Moment team rider yesterday on Newschoolers.

    Great news!!

  10. #160
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    Quote Originally Posted by noslow View Post
    “Currently working on a regular Wildcat 108 for testing”

    -Moment team rider yesterday on Newschoolers.

    Great news!!
    OH SHIT! Cats out of the bag.

  11. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    OH SHIT! Cats out of the bag.
    So when/if that happens, will the PB&J line merge with the Wildcat/Bibby line?

    PB&J = 101
    Wildcat 108 = 108
    Wildcat (Fatcat?) = 116/118?

  12. #162
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    OH SHIT! Cats out of the bag.
    "CATS" out of the bag..... Heyooooooooo haha
    Unofficial Fact: Skiing was 69% more rad in the 1980's.

  13. #163
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    Quote Originally Posted by HukuTa_KydecHuk View Post
    Yeah I also thought of that... I think skis with waist over 120 are just hard to sell. So they produced a narrower chipotle, then stopped producing original chipotle, and then realized they only have Bibby in over 115 category, so added meridian 117.
    Yup. An employee much as said that skis over 120 don't sell, or the meridian 117 would be fatter. Ghost train reserve line got my ears perked up for sure...

    I've been really blown away by the meridian 107. They were super fun to noodle around on early season on manmade snow. They skied firm groomers really well early season.

    Took em out last weekend after the dump in tahoe - skied protests til noon and then meridians. Was really surprised by how little they gave up in heavy, deep chop compared to a bibby. I'd usually reach for my old 190 bibbys at that point, really enjoyed the meridian. They do surprisingly well at very high speeds in mixed conditions. Also go medium speed and are fun in super tight spots. The mount point and full rocker have me skiing switch and spinning way, way more than I ever have. Really fun ski.

    Not my favorite ski on ice, but they're so versatile otherwise they have me questioning whether it makes sense to own a ski just for icy conditions. Methinks no, but I ski tahoe...

  14. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    OH SHIT! Cats out of the bag.
    I want this yesterday, if not sooner.


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  15. #165
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    OH SHIT! Cats out of the bag.
    Perfect timing so people know this ski is coming out and not “settle” for an Enforcer Free 104 or 110 etc

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    Enough talk.

    Check out the 19/20 preview site here:

    www.mmntskis.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    Enough talk.

    Check out the 19/20 preview site here:

    www.mmntskis.com
    Sexy 19/20 preview site and my CB shipping email? WHAT A DAY

  18. #168
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    Enough talk.

    Check out the 19/20 preview site here:

    www.mmntskis.com
    New wildcat/bibby top sheets are pretty sick although I have to say I miss the old Bibby storyline ones.

    Any chance you guys will ever rerelease the Cy Whitling edition graphics? Really bummed I never got those.


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    Awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNW_Skier206 View Post
    New wildcat/bibby top sheets are pretty sick although I have to say I miss the old Bibby storyline ones.

    Any chance you guys will ever rerelease the Cy Whitling edition graphics? Really bummed I never got those.


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    No plans to rerelease a Cy graphic. In the summer months you can special order one.

  21. #171
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    Quote Originally Posted by PNW_Skier206 View Post
    New wildcat/bibby top sheets are pretty sick although I have to say I miss the old Bibby storyline ones.
    I was think the same. I am a fan of space stuff, although it reminds me of work.

    Who designed the Deathwish tops?

  22. #172
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    Quote Originally Posted by 406 View Post
    I was think the same. I am a fan of space stuff, although it reminds me of work.

    Who designed the Deathwish tops?
    Almost all the artwork every year is done by Max Louis Miller (NYC).

    Sometimes we have other artists in the mix like: Ricardo Garcia (Brazil) and Mat Miller (UK)

  23. #173
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melee View Post
    Enough talk.

    Check out the 19/20 preview site here:

    www.mmntskis.com
    Yeah boys. So freaking stoked on all of this: Great graphics, "damper" Wildcat 108, a 194 length in the Commander 118! Amazing.

    If you are willing to share, what changes did you make to the Wildcat 108 layup to make it damper? What weights are you hitting on the prototypes?
    Unofficial Fact: Skiing was 69% more rad in the 1980's.

  24. #174
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    Hey melee congrats to you and all the guys involved. You've been making some of the best skis in the world here in northern nevada, and I'm glad to hear / see that's finally paying dividends.

    Next year's line looks coherent in a new way. No more 3x 108 touring skis, for one. Cool to see two new fat commanders, too. Simple and covers all of the bases. Glad to see the deathwish tour is an actual deathwish tour, too.

    Also those dw graphics are indeed sick.

  25. #175
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    hm, going from strength to strength I see - well done!

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