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  1. #1476
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdadour View Post
    Those are Bibby's. Either 11/12 or 12/13 model year

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  2. #1477
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    FWIW I ski the 188 pb&j (same rocker/camber as the wildcat, correct me if I'm wrong on that) and the 190 deathwish and find the deathwish to have equal or better edgehold on groomers. The pb&j is definitely quicker edge to edge being 11mm narrower, but the stiff flex and big twin has always made them feel like snowblades to me. The deathwish has a big twin as well, but it seems like the micro camber sections really do their job and increase bite at the ends of the ski. I think the deathwish has fantastic edge hold for a 112mm underfoot ski, and also pivots and surfs way better than a ski with that kind of edgehold should. It's not a ski for everyone, but it is definitely a "cold dead hands" ski that will always occupy the middle or fat end of my quiver. It's just too damn versatile. In anything from one inch to two feet I'm happy on the deathwish.

  3. #1478
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    I own / have owned Bibby's, WC108, Bibby Tour, Deathwish, and Deathwish Tour. My $02: All of those skis can set a decent edge, but the Deathwish digs in a bit better. Bibby / WC108 rocker lines run deeper, which can make them feel short / snowblade-ish in some situations on firmer snow. Deathwish is a bit more sensitive to minor weight shifts - rolling your ankles in or out makes that ski transition between biting and sliding moreso than on the Bibby / Wildcat. Bibby / WC108 plane up more readily than the Deathwish. Bibby floats better than the Deathwish, but Deathwish floats better than the WC108. Bibby / WC108 are a bit more stable at speed than the Deathwish (but my non-tour Deathwishes are the older, softer version - new ones might be different). While the Deathwish obviously has triple camber, ultimately, all of those skis pretty clearly share some DNA.

    To put it another way, my inbounds quiver right now is the 190 WC108 and the 184 Bibby. If I had to pick a quiver of one ski to replace those, it'd be the 184 Deathwish.

  4. #1479
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    ^^ Your 108's are longer than your wider Bibby's? That's a slightly unusual choice... or if you replaced the Bibby's would you go 190 next time?

    I have 182 PB&J's... the shortest ski I own (everything else is 184 - 191). I don't feel like they ski particularly short. There's a twin on there but it's not really *that* pronounced (far less than the Wildcat 108's). They're also pretty decent in bumps, considering.

  5. #1480
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    ^^ Your 108's are longer than your wider Bibby's? That's a slightly unusual choice... or if you replaced the Bibby's would you go 190 next time?
    Yeah - it's a bit odd. Not sure if I'd do it different though.

    The Bibbys are are for soft days, and pow days only last for 3 hours anymore. So I spend a lot of time sniffing out pow stashes and noodling around in tight trees, where the 184 is preferable. But for those first 3 hours, yeah, I wish I had the 190's.

    For 3-4 days after the storm when I'm on the WC108's, I don't usually bother with trying to find untouched in tight trees, and the longer ski is better for higher speeds in choppy snow on more open terrain. But, of course, there are times when I go fuck around on some tight billygoat lines where the long ski is a minor handful and I wish I had the 184.

  6. #1481
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    That makes sense. Just need to buy more skis, right? ;-)

  7. #1482
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdadour View Post
    Those are Bibby's. Either 11/12 or 12/13 model year

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    How are they compared to a more modern Bibby/WC? From the search function it looks like they're going to be heavier and more chargey that the current edition but still similar. That sound about right?

  8. #1483
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    Thatís the consensus, yes


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  9. #1484
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    Quote Originally Posted by TahoeJ View Post
    That makes sense. Just need to buy more skis, right? ;-)
    Always. N+1

  10. #1485
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    I'm traveling to Telluride tomorrow and bringing one ski. Can you guess which one?

    Here's some Deathwish stoke skiing some southerly winter slush to almost bulletproof northernly crap to some piste carving last weekend:


  11. #1486
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    Quote Originally Posted by skier666 View Post
    I'm traveling to Telluride tomorrow and bringing one ski. Can you guess which one?

    Here's some Deathwish stoke skiing some southerly winter slush to almost bulletproof northernly crap to some piste carving last weekend:

    love it!

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