Gear rumors 19/20

[waxman]

not sure if this has been posted... but I will definitely buy one of these, there is even some intuition somewhere inside

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I have a pair of the prototypes in fluorescent yellow super squishy and warm, great hut boot or alternative to slippers if that floats your boat.

[CaliBrit]

New Kingpin M Werks
https://www.alpinstore.com/en/blog/P...-KINGPIN-.html

Can’t think they will save that much weight just going to the alpinist toe.

[burrito]

Can’t think they will save that much weight just going to the alpinist toe.

Saw them at OR/SIA this week. There are some other minor changes to the ski/walk lever, heel, etc. I didn't get a chance to talk with anyone about it, though. It's still a DIN 12, so I'm not sure exactly what they're going for. Basically admitting that the six springs in the standard Kingpin toe are no more effective than two?

[rod9301]

Can’t think they will save that much weight just going to the alpinist toe.

No, but you get a toe that doesn't break.

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[CaliBrit]

No, but you get a toe that doesn't break.

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Not sure we know that yet!!!

[PowTron]

Can’t think they will save that much weight just going to the alpinist toe.

Holding both in my hand yesterday at OR you can absolutely feel a weight difference between the carbon and the “standard” Kingpins.

[PowTron]

I have a pair of the prototypes in fluorescent yellow super squishy and warm, great hut boot or alternative to slippers if that floats your boat.

I want a pair of these so badly. Perfect driving home swag slippers.

[robnow]

Where did you see only a 70g weight diff for same size?

https://issuu.com/zuzupopo

[SkiLyft]

I want a pair of these so badly. Perfect driving home swag slippers.

Is that an intuition tag on the side?! Dope. Need.


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[rod9301]

Not sure we know that yet!!!

Ok, that's true, I'm just hoping it is so.

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[Eluder]

New Kingpin M Werks
https://www.alpinstore.com/en/blog/P...-KINGPIN-.html

Can’t think they will save that much weight just going to the alpinist toe.

The biggest difference will be the M Werks has carbon fiber infused plastic throughout. This supposedly makes it stronger and lighter. You could certainly feel that it was noticeably stiffer trying to flex the heel prongs vs the standard kingpin. The standard option is still available more as a price point thing as far as I can tell.

[tomh79]

2020 Maestrale

Video here: https://www.instagram.com/p/BtalcHNIKuJ/

I'm wondering if it's that different from the current version. Probably not.

What the short promo video says:
-more comfort
-made of Pebax Rnew (sustainable)
-Recco

[margotron]

not sure if this has been posted... but I will definitely buy one of these, there is even some intuition somewhere inside

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ill buy these now

[nyskirat]

FWIW, TNF makes something similar- https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/me...oties-nf0a3mkh

[lrn2swim]

FWIW, TNF makes something similar- https://www.thenorthface.com/shop/me...oties-nf0a3mkh

Anyone heard a possible price yet for the FT Apres bootie yet? These North Face ones look pretty nice too, thanks for sharing

[PowTron]

Anyone heard a possible price yet for the FT Apres bootie yet? These North Face ones look pretty nice too, thanks for sharing

The FT version has a much more substantial sole vs the NF. I almost pulled the trigger on the NF until I saw the proto FT.

Not sure on the price, though.

[rob stokes]

You guys are fucked, all this new tech and we are jizzing our pants over a pair of ugly ass slippers? God we are all old.


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[XavierD]

You guys are fucked, all this new tech and we are jizzing our pants over a pair of ugly ass slippers? God we are all old.


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Having a pair, they are pretty fucking awesome.

[reckless toboggan]

Paging Old Larry to the white courtesy phone please. Old Larry to the white courtesy phone. Thank you.

[grinch]

Loafers are 2021
#interwebapocolypse

[PowTron]

You guys are fucked, all this new tech and we are jizzing our pants over a pair of ugly ass slippers? God we are all old.


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If my orthotics fit into them it’s truly a game changer.

#backpainbegone

[bodywhomper]

Dunno if there's anything like it on the market or not...but...talkin' to my forest worker buddies like fallers, tree planters, tree spacers, block layout techs, etc. a few years back, I think there'd be some market opportunity for intuition liner based more technically designed, custom molded plastic shell option, waterproof caulk boots.

I’d suggest peeps in that industry to reach out directly to intuition. circa 1998-2001, intuition used to be into this general idea. Lock, owner of Marmot Mtn Works, convinced them to make ones for use in plastic mountaineering. Getting it to happen did not seem too problematic at that time.

[SKIP IN7RO]

Is it true Shimano is working on integrating the Di2 tech into heel lifters? Asking for a friend.

[tomh79]

Is it true Shimano is working on integrating the Di2 tech into heel lifters? Asking for a friend.

and while they're at it: also ski boot collaborations for fully electronic tour/ski mode switching.

[uysy]

Hi,
I am a guy (from Poland :P) who tested new Black Diamond Jetforce PRO avalanche airbag. Also someone here posted my review (in Polish ). I already translated this review to English (*but I am not able to post URL here :P).

I can reply to any questions you want - about all three new systems
Alpride E1 - supercapacitors
Alprdie 2.0 - "old" 2 gas canister system
Jetforce PRO / Jetforce BT (in PIEPS case).


Feel free to ask.

Anyone know more specifics of Black Diamonds airbag pack lineup for next year. I ran across this website, in some language I can't read without google translate... It shows what I've seen mentioned, appears to be modular system with a base unit and different zip on packs (kind of like the ABS system?). However, these seem to use actual batteries, not the new Alpride E1 supercapacitor system. They are lighter than the current BD packs, but far from light. I was really hoping they were going to make a larger version of the their new E1 pack... Like a 32-35 liter version...

https://plecakilawinowe.pl/black-dia...ce-na-baterie/

Well, yeah actually... The link I posted shows the modular pack is a battery pack, not super capacitor. So I'm specifically wanting to know if they are making a bigger capicitor pack (which I don't believe is clarified anywhere on the pages you mentioned)

Modular packs will be available in Jetforce Pro and Jetforco BT (for PIEPS).
ZIP-ONs called "BOOSTERS" will be available in 10L, 25L, 35L and 25L Splitboard Version. My suggestion - buy 35L option (3000g entire backpack).

There is NO way to remove "system" from base of the backpack.

Can't say for BD, but I talked with Scott rep and he told me E1 system will be fully detachable and Scott will be selling backpacks without system itself. Not a size booster, but still. So I guess BD backpacks will also share this feature

Alpride E1 is fully detachable from the backpack. Right now there are 4 models with alpride E1
Scott Patrol AP E1 - Alpride E1
Alpride SuperCap30 Alpride E1 - limited edition
PIEPS JetForce SC 20L
Black Diamond JETFORCE TOUR 26L
https://plecakilawinowe.pl

yeah - I understood as much upon closer reading Thanks for specifying though.

Sounds like BD will have quite the range this year then

Good review

Yes I'd like to know more about whether the modular system will also be in E1. The modular system looks a little short (the pack sticks far out) which doesn't lead to balanced carry.

Nope, there is a SMALL chance that you can buy "empty" Bakcpack. From my point of view - there is no need to swap backpacks. 30L is nice and light.

Here you can find "short review" in English for Jetforce PRO / Jetforce BT (PIEPS). The only difference between BD and PIEPS will be...colours .

https://plecakilawinowe.pl/new-black...tforce-system/

About Alpride E1 system in Black Diamond / Pieps / Scott.
Posts are in Polish, but feel free to ask here Also i added "translate" option (left upper corner).

Black Diamond:
https://plecakilawinowe.pl/black-dia...ny-alpride-e1/

Pieps:
https://plecakilawinowe.pl/pieps-jet...em-alpride-e1/

SCOTT:
https://plecakilawinowe.pl/scott-pat...1-elektryczny/