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12-19-2018, 04:15 PM #151
I hiked part of the Muir trail one June in the Evolution/Palisades area. Spent a lot of time crawling over 3 ft + diameter knocked-down trees piled 3 and 4 trees high. The slope opposite Dusy Basin on the other side of the Middle Fork of the Kings was 2000 vertical feet and several hundred yards wide of similar sized knocked down trees--with not a single tree left standing.
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12-19-2018, 04:22 PM #152
I remember this one time I shared an anecdote that had nothing to do with the thread title, or so I thought.
But in reality, it was way more than just once.Move upside and let the man go through...
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12-19-2018, 04:42 PM #153guy who skis
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Cool story Hansel.
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12-19-2018, 05:15 PM #154
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12-20-2018, 12:45 PM #155Registered User
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I agree with your sentiments, and this is also how I approach ski touring / hazard assessment / and decision making. But i think it bears mentioning that in Europe a large part of the decision making is through the Munter reduction method which (this came as a BIG surprise to me) is much more quantitative and empirical than the typical N. American approach.
Sorry if this got covered elsewhere. Haven't read the whole thread yet.
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12-20-2018, 01:12 PM #156
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12-20-2018, 05:40 PM #157
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12-20-2018, 08:24 PM #158
Does anyone else use the BCA app w/ slope angle tool? Hopefully it’s accurate?!
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12-21-2018, 08:18 AM #159
Not sure what is worse. People who say "stability was excellent" or people who quiz you about pit results, aspect or elevation when you post simple observations. As if the snowpack or human factors give a shit if you have that knowledge...
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12-21-2018, 08:24 AM #160
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12-21-2018, 08:34 AM #161
Awesome thread. How that I think about it, I'm a big fan for using social media to attempt to hit as many eyeballs with as much information as possible if the goal is to assist in making good decisions. I think the recently posted pictures do this.
Where I think it becomes counter productive is when the information is not objects an tries to effect the readers emotions. i.e. scare them. This seems to lead to a bit of a fuck you response.
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12-21-2018, 08:35 AM #162
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12-21-2018, 09:07 AM #163
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12-21-2018, 10:14 AM #164
#stabilitywasnotfatal
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12-22-2018, 09:31 AM #165
Back to the idea of social media hyping snowpack conditions...
What they're reporting is information based on objective snow analysis for a particular area. Are those guys the definitive experts? Hard to say. Some of them are pretty well trained and know how to pick apart snowpack profile. Are they out skiing everyday on different aspects?-hard to say-some are, some aren't.
I think the thing to keep in mind is that its information and to use it as one of many tools for planning your day. The majority of my backcountry skiing experience has been in places where the snowpack is notoriously bad: throughout Colorado and the Sangre de Cristos around Taos ski valley. Consequently, my background causes me to be perhaps more cautious than say, a person from an area with more of a maritime snowpack or consistent snowfall.
As noted earlier in this post, the ability to read the terrain is probably the most important skill to have in the avalanche avoidance game. Aspects, pitch, micro-terrain, traps, convex roll-overs, escape plans...these are "real time" tools you can use on any day in the backcountry-whether its a high danger day or low.
The rating scale is just part of it. I've had great touring days on high danger days-choosing to ski areas that are relatively safe and avoiding the areas that would've obliterated us. I've had scary days on "low danger" days too-thinking that its OK to push it because the rating was a "low moderate or even low".
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01-01-2019, 11:08 AM #166
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsE-LNlg..._web_copy_link
Effective use of social media ^
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01-02-2019, 03:44 PM #167Registered User
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01-02-2019, 04:54 PM #168
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01-02-2019, 05:00 PM #169Banned
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I don't know why you wouldn't expect to trigger that wind-loaded convex rollover traipsing across the top of it.
But yes, absolutely an effective use of social media.
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01-02-2019, 05:11 PM #170
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01-02-2019, 05:37 PM #171
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01-02-2019, 05:59 PM #172Registered User
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01-02-2019, 06:05 PM #173
Does social media overhype avy danger?
Well maybe I'm the faggot America
I'm not a part of a redneck agenda
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01-02-2019, 09:36 PM #174Registered User
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I've seen it happen, but only during a storm with high wind. That said, he did not mention elevation, aspect or actual location, just "somewhere in the Icicle", and then extrapolates the risk to the whole of the central eastern Cascades. I've been skiing and sledding several days over the past few weeks in the same general vicinity (around Ingalls and the Jack Creek valley, a bit south of the Icicle, but who knows how far from the report) and have not seen any evidence of the same. In fact, I have seen no evidence of any slides in that area as of yesterday, and that's with sun in the alpine, which lets you see the evidence of expert sledders giving all the alpine faces a serious test. Overhype? Not sure if that's the right adjective, but not that useful in actual practice. It's good to know people are finding surprises, it's not valuable though if the data is not relevant.
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01-03-2019, 09:59 AM #175
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