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12-14-2018, 12:52 PM #1
Dynafit Stomp Pads
Has anyone after taking the brakes off a Dynafit Rad 2 or Rotation binding ever added a stomp pad similar to the Hagan Freeride Spacer to add some dampness to the ride? What would prevent this from being possible?
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12-14-2018, 02:55 PM #2
Nothing, if you can fit it in there. Those things will make any binding ski way better. Icing on the heel sole can cause release issues if it's really tight (you'll release forward easy), but this is just a problem around lifts, as touring clears snow and ice with each step.
They'll make normal tech bindings ski more like a kingpin.
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12-14-2018, 04:22 PM #3
Awesome. Is it purely a power transfer improvement or dampness as well? Im mainly looking for dampness.
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12-16-2018, 11:05 PM #4
Curious as to real world reviews of this. I knew a avalanche forecaster that glued wine corks close to his heels to achieve a similar effect. Saw the hagan product on skimo.com the other day and it got me thinking. Very interested in actual reviews. I’ve gone to other options for powder touring. But I’d love to think my tlt speeds on Praxis yetis could ski better as they’re reserved for big steep lines in the spring.
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12-17-2018, 12:12 AM #5
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12-17-2018, 01:00 AM #6
I have ATK Freerider 14 2.0 on my touring skis and last spring I tested one skis for couple of days which had ATK bindings without pads. I could definately feel difference on hard snow. Tails felt much more loose, and not in good way(skis are quite same kind, both very directional with long effective edge, no tail rocker). Haven't been able to try diffence in soft snow, but in hard snow there's quite a difference. I'm big guy, so I can easily make lot's of edge pressure, maybe the difference is not so big if you're on smaller side?
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12-17-2018, 05:48 AM #7
Talked to some guy who didn’t look big the other day, he had the spacer on his ATK Raider 12, and told me the same, that it makes a noticeable difference on hard snow.
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12-17-2018, 08:51 AM #8Registered User
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Norseman has a pict somewhere of a stomp pad he made out of cutting board or sft, I would assume it was beng discussed in the G3 ZED thread
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12-17-2018, 08:59 AM #9
Yes, two seasons of use.
I also removed for testing because of the icing issue I mentioned. You could feel the heel floating like crazy.
I'm talking about power transfer, no added dampness, maybe less as the floatiness gives a little suspension, it just doesn't feel good. Kinpigns feel more substantial, but they don't actually have much clamp down force at the heel, so a wide block under the heel gives a similar effect, regarding power to the edges throughout the back half of the ski. Not saying it's better, but getting close.
The ATK/hagan/bd freeride spacer might be the best ski accessory on the market for pin bindings.
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12-17-2018, 09:19 AM #10
Awesome feedback guys, I really appreciate it. I am a bigger guy so I think I would appreciate the feel of a stomp pad. Do you think the Hagan spacer is universal enough to work with most bindings?
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12-17-2018, 09:54 AM #11
I’m going to start investing leftover mental powers in doing this on my sctt’s.
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12-17-2018, 10:12 AM #12
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there ya go ^^
So its even engineerd cuz buddy is a real mutherfucking engineer eh
in spite of that engineering thing ... he has a personalityLee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know
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12-17-2018, 10:19 AM #14
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12-17-2018, 12:32 PM #15
Skimo has the hagan freeride thingy, anybody got beta on putting it to work?
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12-17-2018, 12:45 PM #16
Y'all aren't worried about how this might effect release characteristics?
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12-17-2018, 01:06 PM #17
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12-17-2018, 01:15 PM #19Registered User
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WildSnow has a post on removing Radical 2 brakes.
https://www.wildsnow.com/19850/remov...fit-radical-2/
Aside from altering release characteristics the Radical 2 and Rotation don’t seem like the best bindings for this mod. I’d consider the Speed Turn or something with less adjustability so the modded stomp pad can be placed closer to the heel (like Norseman’s pics show).
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12-17-2018, 01:30 PM #20
I edited my post to let shit simmer in here a bit more, but you caught it before. Not sure I'm ready to make sweeping declarations on the topic. Gear mods are always a personal choice in the end, eh.
But yeah, pins need to let the heel twist out first.
There always seemed to be enough crushed volcanic rock on my boots and jammed into every crevice to negate any proper release characteristics anyway. 😎
I wasn't worried about it when I ran this setup. Power transfer was part of the motivation... the other was having a mild riser for sloggy cone approaches.
The things worked well in both roles, but I decided that leashes are more trouble than they're worth and fucking annoying... so I changed to brakes and will continue to do so going forward.
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12-17-2018, 07:50 PM #21
Interesting! Which binding did you have the spacer on? From the Hagan website is appears that it's a sliding AFD of sorts to address the issue of added friction changing release characteristics. Is that right? Also, do you still have the spacer? I see that it is adjustable in height but can't find the min and max heights.
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12-17-2018, 10:31 PM #22
Skimo says min height is 18.4mm.
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12-18-2018, 01:50 PM #23
Btw. Stomp pad on my Atk:s is not high enough for my Lange xt free boots, with out grip walk soles. Maybe about 1mm too low.
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12-19-2018, 11:35 AM #24
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