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  1. #26
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    I got my vbar chains from these guys 12 years ago and they are bomber:

    https://www.tirechain.com/Truck-Tire-Chains.HTM

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    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    I have couple of of un-needed pairs sitting in the garage from previous vehicles that are free to a good home in Seattle.
    Wrong thread jong
    Your post did get me thinking that maybe a "chains buy and trade" thread in gear swap might not be a bad idea...
    Probably a bunch of folks regionally that have chains that fit vehicles they no longer own?

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    Chain forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    Chain forum?
    Pairs nicely with Bull Fighting?

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    What Tire Chains?

    Bulls & chains, TRG fetish forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norseman View Post
    Ladder pattern
    this -- with a cam lock. Add traction bars if you're gonna do something stupid like camp in Lot 3 just before a 40" wet pow dump

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    This seems like an appropriate place to post as Iíve been pondering the idea of getting chains for my 100 series cruiser as well.
    @LWS when were you thinking about actually using chains? My issue is why buy something if you donít use it.

    I run Michelin LTX M/S rated tires and change every 2 years or so because cruisers are heavy and chew up those suckers quick.

    Anyways living out in Spokane the conditions are different from where I grew up (west side) and maybe this is a good question for 2FUNKY or other inlanders but I always thought passes stipulated AWD or chains. Should I throw chains in my rig out here on the east side of the state?


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  8. #33
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    Does Les Schwab still do the returns in unopened boxes of chains? I left the chains required footprint 15+ years ago, but that was a great deal.

    Buy the chains, stick the receipt in the box, return when you sell that car for chains that fit the new car (assuming you never used them). Cheap insurance to have the right ones with you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    This seems like an appropriate place to post as Iíve been pondering the idea of getting chains for my 100 series cruiser as well.
    @LWS when were you thinking about actually using chains? My issue is why buy something if you donít use it.

    I run Michelin LTX M/S rated tires and change every 2 years or so because cruisers are heavy and chew up those suckers quick.

    Anyways living out in Spokane the conditions are different from where I grew up (west side) and maybe this is a good question for 2FUNKY or other inlanders but I always thought passes stipulated AWD or chains. Should I throw chains in my rig out here on the east side of the state?


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    Iíve never been checked or required to have chains when going over lookout pass. Thatís really the only legit pass we have around here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Iíve never been checked or required to have chains when going over lookout pass. Thatís really the only legit pass we have around here.
    Roger that!! Thanks for the info.


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  11. #36
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    $3.99 cable chains from Value Village to show the ranger at Longmire on my way into the park. Don't know if they will fit on my car. The few times I've gotten stuck - well, that's what your avy shovel is for . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkiLyft View Post
    This seems like an appropriate place to post as Iíve been pondering the idea of getting chains for my 100 series cruiser as well.
    @LWS when were you thinking about actually using chains? My issue is why buy something if you donít use it.

    I run Michelin LTX M/S rated tires and change every 2 years or so because cruisers are heavy and chew up those suckers quick.

    Anyways living out in Spokane the conditions are different from where I grew up (west side) and maybe this is a good question for 2FUNKY or other inlanders but I always thought passes stipulated AWD or chains. Should I throw chains in my rig out here on the east side of the state?


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    Mostly to get up my driveway safely when we get ice on it. Followed by driving up snow covered roads in the spring for ski access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Don't you live in the South? Pretty sure there's thousands of hours on Youtube of Southerners wrecking their cars in an inch of slush.
    Forgot my sarcasm font there. I learned to drive in Minnesota and always had good chains in the back of my car for trips to Colorado and New Mexico. I also lived a decade in New York heading upstate and to Vermont quite a bit in those days.

    FWIW, the reason the south's so awful in an inch of snow is because it almost always starts falling as rain on a warm road then quickly freezes... and because it only happens once every other year there is no sand or salt already down from the last storm. That's why it's such a disaster around here, nothing to do with all the drivers, many are other northern transplants.

    Here's a good one hahaha. Someone shopped the Stay Puff Marshmello Man on this but couldn't find that version.

    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Mostly to get up my driveway safely when we get ice on it. Followed by driving up snow covered roads in the spring for ski access.
    V-bars or the Pewag all squares I linked.

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    Welp, ordered a couple sets of the auto-trac chains for the wife's rig and my truck and 4 of the v-bar ladder chains for my Land Cruiser. So traction will not be an issue.

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    Look into upgrading the tensioner for the Vbars. The one that comes with them does not like a ton of torque, especially in low temps. Also, find a way to store them dry.

    Edit: I meant the tool to tension the cams. And yes, retighten, then flog.
    Last edited by MakersTeleMark; 12-12-2018 at 12:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leavenworth Skier View Post
    Welp, ordered a couple sets of the auto-trac chains for the wife's rig and my truck and 4 of the v-bar ladder chains for my Land Cruiser. So traction will not be an issue.
    Nice. Get them as tight as possible. Drive 100yds then retighten. Mob the shit out of them after that.

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    I can now say from first hand experience that the Super Z chains are pretty nice. No need to roll onto them, and no need to re-tension. For a long while they've just sat in the subie's trunk, but this year I actually had to use them up at the Tinkham FS road christmas tree shitshow. Narrow road with deep and soft shoulders...there's no way I was getting turned around on that road without the chains. My tires are probably on their last winter and certainly don't have the grip they used to, but still.

    I do understand y'all circumventing the rules for highway driving and carrying "fake" chains, but honestly they're pretty cheap insurance against getting stuck somewhere. Just two for the front axle will do the trick.

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    What Tire Chains?

    Any other experiences with chains/ alternative with subies? I bought a pair of the super z chains but when I test fit, there wasnít good clearance on the inside of the tire. Looked like it was gonna hit the axel joint or whatever itís called

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    Quote Originally Posted by TripleT View Post
    Any other experiences with chains/ alternative with subies? I bought a pair of the super z chains but when I test fit, there wasn’t good clearance on the inside of the tire. Looked like it was gonna hit the axel joint or whatever it’s called
    Official word on my 09 forester is a big fat NO chains ever. Very limited clearance as you have noticed. In a real emergency on solid ice I'd do z chains super tight for a mile or two very slowly. But, I've never been in that much trouble and I've had mine for nearly ten years. In fact, cable chains have stayed in the shed the past two ski seasons. I'm thinking socks might fit tighter.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Day three of schools closed here with only a couple inches in the shade remaining all around. We're dealing with frozen patches and puddles from the plow piles along side the road melting. Was taking Mrs SumJong to work and knew a bridge was going to be sketchy so I coasted across it. Checked the mirror to see a big red 4 runner SIDEWAYS behind me. They then got some bite and hit the whale jumping the first guardrail like Evil Knievel slamming down on the second guardrail, bouncing back up over that and stopping on the other side shoulder just before they would have slammed in to oncoming traffic. Bet they shit their pants. Broke the first rule of icy road driving. No gas pedal when crossing an icy bridge, coast across that bitch!

    And damn, it's day three and most roads are plowed. However, not a drop of sand anywhere to help with this refrozen bullshit. That's why it sucks down south with even minor frozen stuff.
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    For limited-clearance vehicles, I had a set of the Super-Z cable chains for my XTerra. Used 'em a few times with pretty good success, mostly for giving the studless snow tires better grip on icy surfaces; they helped some in deep snow (e.g. unplowed FS roads), but getting high-centered was still an issue, and real chains might have kept clawing through in some cases. Most entertaining use was pulling a full-sized pickup out of a downhill-side snowbank in a Big Sky condo lot.

    I carry a set in my F-150, as well, for the "just in case" (and "you must legally carry chains") scenarios, but I haven't even test-fit them. The F-150 owner's manual recommends against chains on most tire sizes, and I wasn't about to go to reduced diameter (and height) just to get more sideways clearance for chains. I think I could sneak them on the fronts as long as I didn't go to full lock, but that would definitely be a last-ditch effort after I ran out of good options. (Despite the recommendation to the contrary in the owner's manual, I'm fairly sure they'd fit with sufficient clearance on the rear, assuming proper installation and tensioning).

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2FUNKY View Post
    Worked on Donner Summit back in the early 90ís, yeah Iím old, when they smashed all their snow totals. I was ďhighly essential personnel ď so I had a badge that let me through the closure at truckee no matter what. I ran ladder chains on all fours. Aired down the tires to put them on. Made them as tight as possible then used mini tie downs as tensioners. Aired the tires back up. This allowed me to go up to 60mph on snow covered roads with no issues. Crazy fun mobbing up a vacant I-80 with a foot+ of snow on the road in a blizzard with Tool blaring on the radio. Never even hinted at being stuck.
    That sounds fun as shit.
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    I was in California on a big day with chain check. I said I have a Subaru with snow tires and they said rules is rules. I went to store and they said it was $200 and I had no intention of using them. I was sad and the other employee says didnít you drive up in a small car with 13Ē wheels. Sure those are only $39. I went back up and got through the checkpoint. It was funny cause I could have had a ham sandwich in the chain bag since he never checked to see those 13Ē would not fit my 16Ē. It was a good day once I got to the resort cause most people did not make it up there until lunch. Still keep them in my car in case they ask but they are never going on.

    Now if you do buy chains be sure to use tensioners also. Had a buddy put on chains and they came off and wrapped his axle. After fiddling for two hours we were able to extract them.
    I need to go to Utah.
    Utah?
    Yeah, Utah. It's wedged in between Wyoming and Nevada. You've seen pictures of it, right?

    So after 15 years we finally made it to Utah.....


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    V bar chains with the spider tensioner thing, go big or go home. Only time I got stuck was trying to tow a car trailer with a diesel truck on it up an ice covered gravel road that was probably a 15% grade. Some would say that was more operator error, but I think it was because my front end kept walking around. Speaking of, I need to buy another set of chains...

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