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  1. #1
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    Looking for new ski 192, 95 under foot

    I have been riding the old MX 98 in a 194 for over 10 years. This is a 30 meter radius ski, 132/98/117. Laminate, wood core, two sheets of metal. Super progressive flex. Softer tip, and fairly stiff under foot and in the tail. It is like a super g ski that can handle most terrain.
    I have 3 pairs still in the wrapper. I have been gone through about 7 pairs.

    I took out a Stokli Stormride 184 in, 95 under foots. It is a 19m radius and i loved the way it turned on the groomers, but just way too short and flimsy for the rest of the mountain.

    I know most companies are not making anything above a 188.

    Am i missing anything out there? Volkll Mantra? Anyone skied the new one in the 191?

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    191 Head Monster 98. It has a tighter turn radius tho


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    I just picked up a pair of Supernatural 92s as early season rock skis (mounted but never used, so they were really cheap.) I thought they would just be fine for trashing, but I ended up really liking them. 19m radius, pretty powerful, got some stiffness in the tails, but a little rocker front and aft. Maybe slightly narrower than you want, and I don't expect they will be very floaty, but I feel like I can take them anywhere and they are versatile, playful and lively.

    However, my daily drivers are are 110s, so maybe it's just getting back on narrower skis that is kinda fun, so take it with a grain of salt. Regardless, I think they are worth looking at if you want something in the low 90s and playful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
    191 Head Monster 98. It has a tighter turn radius tho


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    i forgot to add, i can not stand rocker. I know the mantra has early rise in tip and rockered tail.. I dont know about that head.

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    The head has barely any rocker


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    Gonna be really hard to find a sidewall construction ski without rocker. You’re the only one...

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    Quote Originally Posted by skideeppow View Post
    I have 3 pairs still in the wrapper.
    so, given this thread, you selling these then?




    might want to look at one of the oft-named companies here that offers custom layups
    pick the width, tip, tail & flex yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    Gonna be really hard to find a sidewall construction ski without rocker. You’re the only one...
    Quote Originally Posted by acinpdx View Post
    so, given this thread, you selling these then?




    might want to look at one of the oft-named companies here that offers custom layups
    pick the width, tip, tail & flex yourself
    This and this. You're pretty alone in your requirements.

    Praxis makes a 194cm freeride, but it does have tip rocker.

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    this sounds like a praxis 9d8 but i have not riden one.

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    Looking for new ski 192, 95 under foot

    Can’t have much less rocker than a head monster.

    I own one of the only skis similar to what you describe that can be found sold today with full camber (Parlor Cardinal 100, 100 under foot, stiff layup). The guy who originally spec’d and built the custom ski thought he wanted full camber too. As the new owner, I am sure it would be a more fun ski for use all over the mountain if it had some tip rocker, at minimum.

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    this is what i was looking for. Old storm rider. metal and wood construction. No rocker.

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    Nice, those are badass skis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Self Jupiter View Post
    Nice, those are badass skis.
    yeah. A friend has them, sent me this pick an hour ago. Said, you have any need for these? I was like, wow, of course. I think they are a 198, 91 under foot.
    I skied these for a couple days in Jackson back in 2006. Loved them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skideeppow View Post
    this is what i was looking for. Old storm rider. metal and wood construction. No rocker.

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    Had a pair. Sold them. My mistake.

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    ^^Funny who would think a ski from 2004 would be relevant today.

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    Like most others I’m always moving to the next evolution in design and build. The sport has really progressed so much on that front but a good shape and build is just that.

    I’d like think think we can become like surfing in regards to legacy shapes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skideeppow View Post
    this is what i was looking for. Old storm rider. metal and wood construction. No rocker.

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    I just picked up a pair of these in 186.
    Will mount soon.

    Pretty sure the long one for the SSs was 194.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pfluffenmeister View Post
    I just picked up a pair of these in 186.
    Will mount soon.

    Pretty sure the long one for the SSs was 194.
    Where did you find them?
    And yes the ones I got are 194.

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    I’m in a similar boat, 3 pairs of MX98s, one raspberry tip pair with 30ish days, 1 red tip pair with 200ish days, 1 pair BNIP.

    I’m curious about the 193 Nordica Enforcer 93 or 100. They won’t be a replacement for the MX98, but might be acceptable.

    I’ve got a pair of 194 Praxis Freerides, 100% stock, they are definitely not the droid you are looking for. Maybe if the stiffness is upped to 5 and the core changed to heavy w/carbon.

    The new Völkl Mantra (M5 I think) is on my list to try this winter.

    I really don’t know of any other skis over 190 and around 100mm under foot.

    I’m kicking myself for not buying Powder7 out of their last few pairs of MX98s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skibrd View Post
    I’m in a similar boat, 3 pairs of MX98s, one raspberry tip pair with 30ish days, 1 red tip pair with 200ish days, 1 pair BNIP.

    I’m curious about the 193 Nordica Enforcer 93 or 100. They won’t be a replacement for the MX98, but might be acceptable.

    I’ve got a pair of 194 Praxis Freerides, 100% stock, they are definitely not the droid you are looking for. Maybe if the stiffness is upped to 5 and the core changed to heavy w/carbon.

    The new Völkl Mantra (M5 I think) is on my list to try this winter.

    I really don’t know of any other skis over 190 and around 100mm under foot.

    I’m kicking myself for not buying Powder7 out of their last few pairs of MX98s.
    Parlor Cardinal 100s come in a 192 length. Great ski.

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    Hart Boss https://hartskis.com/clearance-skis $179 + shipping. You will not find a better built ski. Same ski as the old SuperBro.
    Click. Point. Chute.

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    They only have short sizes in the Boss.

    Man those are cheap skis on that site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ottime View Post
    They only have short sizes in the Boss.

    Man those are cheap skis on that site.
    You're looking for the 195 Fuelie Boss. SuperBRO. Go get 'em.
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    Down Showdown's? Although, I don't know about the Rocker/camber on that one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skideeppow View Post
    Where did you find them?
    And yes the ones I got are 194.
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