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  1. #376
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    So I'm working on upgrading to a lighter set up in anticipation of a hut to hut trip in the Alps this spring. So far have picked up some zero g 95s. I have some extra vipecs I could mount on them but thinking of maybe selling those and going with something lighter. ATK crests/Hagan pure seem like a good all around compromise and the price isn't totally insane. Anyone have any specific issues with these now that they've been around for a little while? Or any features you hate?

    The new FR14 also looks sweet but I don't think I really need the higher DIN (or price tag).

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  2. #377
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    why on gods green earth would anyone buy an alpinest pos and need to buy anothers brands part to make it better
    fuckin marker sucks if they work better with a "freeride spacer"
    why wouldn't they include it?
    oh wait
    marker sucks
    .
    "When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
    "I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
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    ski on in eternal peace

  3. #378
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    Quote Originally Posted by fleaches View Post
    So I'm working on upgrading to a lighter set up in anticipation of a hut to hut trip in the Alps this spring. So far have picked up some zero g 95s. I have some extra vipecs I could mount on them but thinking of maybe selling those and going with something lighter. ATK crests/Hagan pure seem like a good all around compromise and the price isn't totally insane. Anyone have any specific issues with these now that they've been around for a little while? Or any features you hate?

    The new FR14 also looks sweet but I don't think I really need the higher DIN (or price tag).

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    A member of another french ski forum has been using them without issues for a while, and another member got some for his wife and no problem either.
    You can also take the new R12 if you don't need the 14 DIN.

  4. #379
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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    why on gods green earth would anyone buy an alpinest pos and need to buy anothers brands part to make it better
    fuckin marker sucks if they work better with a "freeride spacer"
    why wouldn't they include it?
    oh wait
    marker sucks
    .
    You don’t...
    Alpinist skis and works great without the silly freeride spacer. Wouldn’t buy a KingPin but pretty happy with the Alpinist.

  5. #380
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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    why on gods green earth would anyone buy an alpinest pos and need to buy anothers brands part to make it better
    fuckin marker sucks if they work better with a "freeride spacer"
    why wouldn't they include it?
    oh wait
    marker sucks
    .
    Remember when people used to put Raichle race tongues on pick-a-shitty-AT-boot-from-15-years-ago
    Quote Originally Posted by blurred
    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  6. #381
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Remember when people used to put Raichle race tongues on pick-a-shitty-AT-boot-from-15-years-ago
    ATK Freeride spacer will make any tech binding heel ski better, more like a kingpin. Watch out for ice on the sole while lift-served and ski-on-off with gondolas.

  7. #382
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierD View Post
    You donít...
    Alpinist skis and works great without the silly freeride spacer. Wouldnít buy a KingPin but pretty happy with the Alpinist.
    Yeah they sure do. And they were available for a little over $200 last year vs $500 for the ATKís. I still interested to try the spacer.

    Looking at a pair of FR14ís though....

  8. #383
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    Quote Originally Posted by skifishbum View Post
    why on gods green earth would anyone buy an alpinest pos and need to buy anothers brands part to make it better
    fuckin marker sucks if they work better with a "freeride spacer"
    why wouldn't they include it?
    oh wait
    marker sucks
    .
    The Alpinist is a POS? I have only seen positive reviews.

    I think the point is that all tech bindings that do not have underfoot boot support in ski mode would ski better with a freeride spacer. Not just Alpinists. It's just that I have Alpinists....which I got for $200 (as CaliBrit notes) to replace my Kingpins.

    The Kingpins have been the best BC binding I've ever used. I've never had a prerelease or unintended release, tours amazing, everything works great. The heel skis so well too. But they are heavy, I wanted to try something ultralight on my pow boards, and the boards are already swiss-cheese. Alpinists can reuse almost all of the KP holes - just need to drill two new ones. I will run the Alpinists first before getting the spacer - I was just curious if others had used them. (I do agree that anything Marker is generally suspect...but I think the same about Salomon, soo.....)

    I love God's green earth too, but I prefer God's white earth. And during summer, her brown earth. Green is okay too I guess. But usually the green goes in a bowl - thanks God for the green!

  9. #384
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    First time Iíve heard of the freeride spacer. Very cool.

  10. #385
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    i dont have faith in marker products based on 2 decades of teching and seeing the fail to often
    the atk and gear i trust is worth every extra cent to me 2x in the bc
    i skied 200+ days on the og atk fr14 without the spacer
    prob 100 on the new
    same ski
    i cant tell a difference
    but im not a real techy tech i just ski fairly hard and greened and dont do or read blister fart sniffer reviews
    they the og version are still functionable but the black pin on the toe wing assembly is pushing out
    with epoxy i bet they would be fine
    "When the child was a child it waited patiently for the first snow and it still does"- Van "The Man" Morrison
    "I find I have already had my reward, in the doing of the thing" - Buzz Holmstrom
    "THIS IS WHAT WE DO"-AML -
    ski on in eternal peace

  11. #386
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    Cross post in GS, but if anyone is interested I’ve got a pair of ATK Crest 10 with 96 brakes new in box for sale. Thinking $330 shipped. I ordered a second pair after this set for stuck in customs for over a month, they finally showed up.

  12. #387
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    First day out yesterday on new setup.

    ATK Crest 10 running brakeless
    BC Camox Freebird 183

    Snow was probably 60cm of new unconsolidated on top of the base. The bindings are amazing. Great on the uphill, the flat mode worked perfectly, barely any running between heel and binding when breaking trail. Downhill they totally disappear and ski really well. Last lap was refrozen breakable sun crust and the binders were very confidence inspiring. Risers work great. Transitions were super easy the turrets turn well by hand but don’t turn on your way up.

    Definitely a big fan of ATK.

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