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  1. #276
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    Yeah, the weight budget is always going to favor the binding vs. the brakes. I think it's the correct design decision. I'd rather have a crappy brake than a binding that explodes. We don't need more threads like those about the Kingpins ;-)

    The Ion toes are indeed confidence inspiring, as are my Vipec Blacks & Plum Guides.

    The only toe I've skied on that gave me the willies were my Comforts, and I can't dismiss the possibility of user error - not cleaning the boot fitting.

    I learned my lesson the hard way (but with no consequences), and since then, religiously rotate my boot 8-10 times to clean out the boot sockets before stomping in.

    Your comments about the Freeraider toes are surprising, in light of the hard chargers who seem to like them. Are you sure you're not wishing for a 300g Shift? It'll be a while.

    ... Thom
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    Long light strides for pow.... I've been biking lift served 7 days in a row... first moment I've thought fondly about winter's return
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

  3. #278
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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post

    Your comments about the Freeraider toes are surprising, in light of the hard chargers who seem to like them. Are you sure you're not wishing for a 300g Shift? It'll be a while.

    ... Thom
    But I think I've said nothing bad about Freerider toes? They are just less beefy, click-in is less powerfull, which brings me to idea that springs are also softer (I could be completely wrong) and that is the reason why I said they are less confidence inspiring, that's all

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    Quote Originally Posted by HukuTa_KydecHuk View Post
    But I think I've said nothing bad about Freerider toes? They are just less beefy, click-in is less powerfull, which brings me to idea that springs are also softer (I could be completely wrong) and that is the reason why I said they are less confidence inspiring, that's all
    Sounded as if you were sketched out, skiing them.

    Maybe try torquing out of them on the bench (toes unlocked, heels in touring mode) and comparing against how stiff your Ion toes springs feel?

    A hillbilly version of Lou's "ghetto setup": https://www.wildsnow.com/16117/g3-io...tech-bindings/

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  5. #280
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    Quote Originally Posted by galibier_numero_un View Post
    The only toe I've skied on that gave me the willies were my Comforts, and I can't dismiss the possibility of user error
    I've prereleased from OG Dynafit Speeds, Comforts and Verticals. I was careful enough, and it happened enough, that I CAN dismiss user error.

    I've never had the issue with Plum Guides, Speed Radicals, Plum Race or Speed Superlite 2.0's. No change in how I use them. Guides and Superlites, in particular, I've found to have excellent retention. I personally don't think you can blame lateral prerelease only on the toes. Older Dynafits had more lateral play in the heels and I think this played a role in forcing open the toes, which, of course, have fairly light springs.

    My point is, while I once coveted stiffer toe springs, I no longer focus on the toes alone, but total binding performance.

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    I had the g3 ions, skied on them about 100 days, on vwerks Katanas.
    They developed a nasty play in the toes, where the toes would move side to side, about 5-10 degrees

    Caused problem skinning.

    Also a couple of releases when i hit small rocks, that didn't feel like the binding should release.

    The toe springs also got progressively weaker.

    Switched to Salomon mtn, and I'm happy with them.

    Lighter, bomber and better retention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I've seen black diamonds! View Post
    I've prereleased from OG Dynafit Speeds, Comforts and Verticals. I was careful enough, and it happened enough, that I CAN dismiss user error.

    I've never had the issue with Plum Guides, Speed Radicals, Plum Race or Speed Superlite 2.0's. No change in how I use them. Guides and Superlites, in particular, I've found to have excellent retention. I personally don't think you can blame lateral prerelease only on the toes. Older Dynafits had more lateral play in the heels and I think this played a role in forcing open the toes, which, of course, have fairly light springs.

    My point is, while I once coveted stiffer toe springs, I no longer focus on the toes alone, but total binding performance.
    Another thing I forgot to mention is the mount. We shouldn't overlook heel alignment and its influence on toe retention.

    One of my biggest bitches is the fact that (in my experience), only Fritchi counterbores their toe holes.

    Every else countersinks them which draws the toe piece back toward the center of the drilled holes.

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    So ... anyone play with the Kreuzspitz GTs? 3 years in production ought to be enough time to shake out the bugs?

    The new toe design of the ATKs ultimately drove me to the Plums. I wanted to give ATK another year on the market.

    Even though the Guides come in at 682 grams/pair, they check all of the other boxes (adjustable lateral & vertical release is non-negotiable for me).

    I'm not a fan of paying to be a beta tester ;-)

    ... Thom
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    Quote Originally Posted by HukuTa_KydecHuk View Post
    But I think I've said nothing bad about Freerider toes? They are just less beefy, click-in is less powerfull, which brings me to idea that springs are also softer (I could be completely wrong) and that is the reason why I said they are less confidence inspiring, that's all
    I've had first gen ion's for 3 seasons and now atk freerider 14 2.0 for two seasons. Around 70 days per season. Never had any prerealese problems with either. Atk's have developed some play on heel towers, not bad yet. Going to ski them at least one more season. I'm 105kg and ski some what fast in mostly shitty snow, so they have seen some torque and stress.

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    I preordered xenics
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    Quote Originally Posted by margotron View Post
    I preordered xenics
    There I go ... pondering violating my operating principle of not being a paying beta tester.

    [edit] If this fellow (link, below) is right, the single position riser is a touch higher than many medium risers, at 64mm above the ski. I think I could live with that, but the unknown at the moment is the toe pin height above the ski (in order to do an apples to apples comparison of the delta).

    https://www.telemark-pyrenees.com/fr...10-test-report

    In case the following is useful, here's skimo's compiled list of riser heights and riser deltas. Note that when I measure my Plum Guides, I get the same heights (within .5mm) but my delta numbers vary considerably. I'm not sure they're measuring the way they say they are. Anyhow, this link might inform your thinking:

    https://skimo.co/binding-riser-heights

    ... Thom
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