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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    Bless you. I hate suspenders with clips but that's all I could find. I've ordered a couple of pairs.
    I've been really happy with these, especially for the price.

  2. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3PinGrin View Post
    My current favorites. I have only been using them since Spring 2020 so can't speak to long term durability, but they seem pretty solid.

    https://www.firstlite.com/products/suspenders
    Ordered! Thanks 3PG!

  3. #78
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    You ever tried track pants??


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  4. #79
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    you could but its not ^^ very wind or water resistant, no gator around the boot, usually don't h

    back in the day people would wear polartech fleece on the way up & pull the gortex out of the pack for the down which i don't see much any more
    Lee Lau - xxx-er is the laziest Asian canuck I know

  5. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by XXX-er View Post
    you could but its not ^^ very wind or water resistant, no gator around the boot, usually don't h

    back in the day people would wear polartech fleece on the way up & pull the gortex out of the pack for the down which i don't see much any more
    Ya. Track pants seem to be the way to go for all weather. Saw it over on Newschoolers. With a pair of adidas and a 30 bungee the world is yours!!


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  6. #81
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    I like those firstlite suspenders
    But whats up with most companies putting belt loops on dedicated bibs?! I thought "belt and suspenders" was just a pithy legal expression

  7. #82
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    FLylow Smythe

    Big fan on the bibs for touring gang but they have to have lighter fabric for me. Really liked the OR hemispheres bib but they got chewed up and are a bit narrow cut. Just ordered some flyblow Smythe bibs. Hoping they will be a good middle ground with lighter weight fabric with a more "freeride Cut". Anyone have experience with the Smythe bibs? Im 5' 10", 145 and got a medium.

  8. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by m104da View Post
    I like those firstlite suspenders
    But whats up with most companies putting belt loops on dedicated bibs?! I thought "belt and suspenders" was just a pithy legal expression
    I got pants with belt and they don't stay up with belt alone
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  9. #84
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    Any experience with the Mammut Haldigrat?

    I'm looking for a dedicated touring hardshell pant, and tend to like bibs. I like the idea of a hybrid bib with a softshell bib section, but am a little wary of the zip off bib since that part obviously can't stretch.

  10. #85
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    anyone recommend some cheaper soft shell pants for warmer days? Anyone know if the patagonia simul would work? (not cheap but I have a coupon I need to use) I have a feeling the ankles wont open enough. Also just need something for walks in the woods with the dog and cold road rides. https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...ens-snow-pants

    I got patagonia snowdrifter bibs for colder days, but realizing now, as someone who runs hot, this could be rough.
    https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...ens-snow-pants

  11. #86
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_curran View Post
    anyone recommend some cheaper soft shell pants for warmer days? Anyone know if the patagonia simul would work? (not cheap but I have a coupon I need to use) I have a feeling the ankles wont open enough. Also just need something for walks in the woods with the dog and cold road rides. https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...ens-snow-pants

    I got patagonia snowdrifter bibs for colder days, but realizing now, as someone who runs hot, this could be rough.
    https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...ens-snow-pants
    i had the Alpine Guide and Mixed Guide pants that I used forever. i don't think they make either anymore but i'm sure you could find them on worn wear or ebay for cheap.
    i agree, i don't think the ankles of the simul will do boots. it doesn't look like they are making any multifunctional softshell that will fit boots right now.
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  12. #87
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_curran View Post
    anyone recommend some cheaper soft shell pants for warmer days? Anyone know if the patagonia simul would work? (not cheap but I have a coupon I need to use) I have a feeling the ankles wont open enough. Also just need something for walks in the woods with the dog and cold road rides. https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...ens-snow-pants

    I got patagonia snowdrifter bibs for colder days, but realizing now, as someone who runs hot, this could be rough.
    https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...ens-snow-pants
    Mammut Champ is the best pant that I have ever used for what you describe but they don't make that model anymore. Straight up softshell (Schoeller dryskin), no waterproofing, no insulation, just really good pants. Sans long john bottoms for warm days, with for colder. I'm not sure if they have something similar now. Sizing is a bit weird to dial in sometimes with Mammut pants (or used to be at least) but they make really good stuff.

  13. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_curran View Post
    anyone recommend some cheaper soft shell pants for warmer days? [/url]
    I think Eddie Bauer has some that are supposed to be decent and you can get super cheap when they do sales.


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  14. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by s_curran View Post
    anyone recommend some cheaper soft shell pants for warmer days? Anyone know if the patagonia simul would work? (not cheap but I have a coupon I need to use) I have a feeling the ankles wont open enough. Also just need something for walks in the woods with the dog and cold road rides. https://www.patagonia.com/product/me...ens-snow-pants
    Quote Originally Posted by stealurface831 View Post
    , i don't think the ankles of the simul will do boots.
    I got some Simul pants from 2017 for similar purposes and my main issue was the ankle cuff is pretty small and fits short. I ended up awkwardly shoving the bottom of them into my boots to ski down; unideal with a bottom synch cord. If you're just out for spring, firm snow it could work ok I guess, but they'd be compromised in colder temps or pow. The fabric, cut and design is great otherwise - used them to climb Mt Kenya a few years back!

    Arc'teryx warrantied my Stinger Bibs last winter and finally restocked the Sabre LT bibs, as replacement, this fall. So far so good - I like the slightly more athletic cut and bib pocket. Overall a better touring bib for my tastes then the slightly baggy Stingers.

  15. #90
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    I have used OR Ferrosi pants for some spring ski touring before, just about fit over the cuff of my boots and nice and light, also not expensive.

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