Why your SUV sucks in the mountains

**Norseman** · 10-01-2019, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by bodywhomper

Thx!!

Personally, I wasn’t having a hard time figuring out specs on my vehicles. I’m searching for used wheels that will fit on my vehicles, I’m trying to figure out what other vehicle wheels will work for my cars, eg, supposedly, tundra and land cruiser. Over the weekend, I found a set on CL that were 2mm difference in offset, which lead me to ask up thread. I was surprised of the very slight difference because it was matrix vs Corolla, same gens, i think, and the matrix is supposedly known as the “Corolla Matrix” in some areas.

Tundra and Sequoia share the lug pattern but not with any other vehicle, afaik.

5 x 150mm

**Rideski** · 10-01-2019, 05:56 PM

I love how this thread dissing on suvs turned into another suv tire thread
Five stars
A+++

#cantkeepagoodmaggotdown

**bodywhomper** · 10-01-2019, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Norseman

Tundra and Sequoia share the lug pattern but not with any other vehicle, afaik.

5 x 150mm

Apparently, only some/most tundras are 5x150, which is same as 100-series cruisers. But, I thought tundras had 16’s as an option...?

**TAFKALVS** · 10-01-2019, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by bodywhomper

Apparently, only some/most tundras are 5x150, which is same as 100-series cruisers. But, I thought tundras had 16’s as an option...?

100 and 200 series are the same pattern as well.

80 series and older Cruisers are 6 lug. 1st gen Tundras are also 6lug

**Norseman** · 10-01-2019, 06:22 PM

Ah, ok

**XXX-er** · 10-01-2019, 06:38 PM

I spent 3 months looking on FB for used rims and tires with no luck, soon as I order new rims and tires exactly what I need shows up

I had to look at all those fuck adds which said " i gots black tires and I want this much money "

Would it kill you to say what they came off of you bunch of fucking losers ?

**simple** · 10-01-2019, 07:59 PM

FB and insta sets a low bar. Only skill needed is to be able to post a photo.

**Liam1Black** · 10-02-2019, 12:11 AM

I have a suspicion that if I change my tires I will increase throughput. My Ford's engine power is enough, but often skidding in the mud. My friend advised me to put the chains on wheels, does that make sense?

**Vt-Freeheel** · 10-02-2019, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by Liam1Black

I have a suspicion that if I change my tires I will increase throughput. My Ford's engine power is enough, but often skidding in the mud. My friend advised me to put the chains on wheels, does that make sense?

Yes it does, make sure to chain all four wheels.

**XXX-er** · 10-02-2019, 09:37 AM

if you your work is driving then you clock the big numbers, I now remember a guy who drove the bankers dispatch carrying just some paper files every day from PG to Valemont, a 600 km round trip every day with no stop lights, in pretty short time buddy had an 03 VW TDi with 650,000 kms on the clock

**whyturn** · 10-05-2019, 05:11 PM

My problem has been torque at times. Modified my forester and I make over 300 at the wheels. With snow tires I can drift at times if it’s boosting. But it’s fun

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**nickwm21** · 10-05-2019, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Rideski

I love how this thread dissing on suvs turned into another suv tire thread
Five stars
A+++

#cantkeepagoodmaggotdown

The first post of this thread is specifically about tires......

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**snowaddict91** · 10-05-2019, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by whyturn

My problem has been torque at times. Modified my forester and I make over 300 at the wheels. With snow tires I can drift at times if it’s boosting. But it’s fun

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That does sound fun. I'd just get in trouble with a car like that though.

**Dee Hubbs** · 10-05-2019, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by XXX-er

if you your work is driving then you clock the big numbers, I now remember a guy who drove the bankers dispatch carrying just some paper files every day from PG to Valemont, a 600 km round trip every day with no stop lights, in pretty short time buddy had an 03 VW TDi with 650,000 kms on the clock

Thats over 4 years of driving. 600/day x 5 days = 3000/week x 50 weeks = 150,000/year

**simple** · 10-05-2019, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by whyturn

My problem has been torque at times. Modified my forester and I make over 300 at the wheels. With snow tires I can drift at times if it’s boosting. But it’s fun

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I miss my turbo wagon. No nannies not even traction control. Needed a 6 speed but the torque in 2nd and 3rd was addictive

**jmedslc** · 10-05-2019, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by snowaddict91

That does sound fun. I'd just get in trouble with a car like that though.

i've still got a 2008 FXT 5MT, stock power with suspension and steering mods. it is an extremely fun canyon car, but with snow tires it's almost anticlimactic as it doesn't break free in the pow.

**Rideski** · 10-06-2019, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by nickwm21

The first post of this thread is specifically about tires......

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Right, it’s about a corolla with snow tires, therefore mocking suvs. Hense the title of the thread, your suv sucks. The last many posts have been about suvs.

**blackalps** · 10-06-2019, 10:00 AM

the original post is so dumb. of course a car with snow tires is going to be better in the snow than a car with summer tires. I dont think anyone looking for 4x4 or awd for their winter car is thinking, man, I'm really just looking for the car I can drive through a blizzard in the mountains on summer tires.

**3PinGrin** · 10-06-2019, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by blackalps

the original post is so dumb. of course a car with snow tires is going to be better in the snow than a car with summer tires. I dont think anyone looking for 4x4 or awd for their winter car is thinking, man, I'm really just looking for the car I can drive through a blizzard in the mountains on summer tires.

You obviously haven't driven up Little Cottonwood Canyon in SLC, UT on a pow day, haha.

**whyturn** · 10-06-2019, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by 3PinGrin

You obviously haven't driven up Little Cottonwood Canyon in SLC, UT on a pow day, haha.

And one idiot on all seasons screws it up for everyone

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**3PinGrin** · 10-06-2019, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by whyturn

And one idiot on all seasons screws it up for everyone

We are on the same page there, just addressing blackalps "anyone" comment.

**snowaddict91** · 10-06-2019, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by whyturn

And one idiot on all seasons screws it up for everyone

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I mean as long as he's behind me in line that's fine.

**Ted Striker** · 10-06-2019, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by blackalps

the original post is so dumb. of course a car with snow tires is going to be better in the snow than a car with summer tires. I dont think anyone looking for 4x4 or awd for their winter car is thinking, man, I'm really just looking for the car I can drive through a blizzard in the mountains on summer tires.

uhmm... literally everyone thinks that.

(other than us, of course)

and it's because everything comes oem with all seasons (that are basically summers with better pr)

**sruffian** · 10-06-2019, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Ted Striker

and it's because everything comes oem with all seasons (that are basically summers with better pr)

Speaking of summers with better PR - has anyone driven what appears to be 3pmsf certified tires with 4-season mileage warranties? These do not look like snow tires to me, and may be de-valuing the mark? Of course, if they perform like the marketing language suggests, they're snow tires you can drive for 60k at any temperature

3PMSF passenger-car tires:
Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady
Hankook Kinergy 4S (Canada only)
Michelin CrossClimate + (limited sizes available)
Nokian WRG3
Toyo Celsius
Vredestein Quatrac5