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  1. #1
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    Studded fat bike tires

    I bought a fat bike last winter to keep my lunch time rides going throughout the winter when it gets snowy here in Montana. It was a really nice way to get out and clear the mind and get a little more exercise during the dark months when it's harder to get excited to go outside before and after work.

    A few times the road conditions were really slick and more than once I fell on icy conditions. I'd like to pick up a set of studded tires, but holy crap they are pricey. I may have to bite the bullet and pay it anyway, but I wanted to see if there were:

    1. Any suggestions on which tires to keep an eye out for, and
    2. Anybody have any studded (or studdable) tires laying around unused for a decent price?

    My bike can handle 5" tires.

    Seth

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    what tires do you have now? I simply bought some grip studs and did mine myself. I bought both the real ones and the chinese copies, the copies..... don't bother with them. Get the real ones. Mine are in Surly Bud & Lou.

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    sent you a PM

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    I donít ride much icy pavement, except this morning where studs would have been nice.

    Studs suck when itís clear and/or soft.
    Unless you have two sets of wheel, I donít think Iíd do studs.

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    Back in the BMX 70s days we tried to make our own studded bike tires to fool around on in the winter. Basically, drilled the old tires and put panhead bolts through the holes with washers and nuts to keep them from pulling through. We used the rubber from an old inner tube to line the newly studded tire covering the panheads so they didn't cut the actual inner tube. It turned out to be a lot of work for little performance improvement.. and as mentioned, pending disaster on non icy pavement. Way more sketchy to ride a vehicle with two tires studded on dry pavement than one with 4. Pretty sure nobody tries to ride an ice racing bike on pavement more than once..
    Go that way really REALLY fast. If something gets in your way, TURN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredhead View Post
    I don’t ride much icy pavement, except this morning where studs would have been nice.

    Studs suck when it’s clear and/or soft.
    Unless you have two sets of wheel, I don’t think I’d do studs.
    I'm in the same mindset. I ride my fat bike on groomed or packed down snow and occasionally use it on the dirt when its wet. No need for studs unless the sole purpose of your fat bike is hard pack snow.

    Its also worth mentioning the absurd prices of studded fat bike tires.

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    Thanks for the input. The plan would be to swap to studs when we hit the winter months and back to regular rubber when we transition back into Spring. I'm not sure it justifies two wheelsets, but I think it *might* justify two sets of tires, although I'm in full agreement about the ridiculous price of studded tires.

    I'm currently on Schwalbe Jumbo Jims. It's possible that just moving to a better snow tire would be a big improvement. I've seen articles on adding Grip Studs to Buds and Lous, but not to the Jumbo Jim. However, I haven't searched for that specifically. If they would work in the Jumbo Jims, I would be happy to use those for snow and get a better dirt tire like an FBF or FBR.

    Seth
    Last edited by sethschmautz; 11-01-2018 at 01:36 PM.

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    Bah
    Get off my lawn

    Studded my own tires in college

    Short sheet metal screws. Put duct tape on the heads.
    Ride.

    Rode stud tires before they made them.
    ďLife has become immeasurably better since I have been forced to stop taking it seriously.Ē
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    i saw an instagram of somebody doing that to motorcycle tires recently. he put them so densely it seemed like it would have to compromise the structure of the tire. like i would think a hard turn would tear the tire apart.
    Last edited by wyeaster; 11-01-2018 at 06:14 PM.

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    I ride tubeless, so had to put the studs in from the outside. Trying to keep the weight within reason too.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/f...u-img_1570.jpg

    http://forums.mtbr.com/attachments/f...u-img_1571.jpg

    studs are a really good idea on off-camber hard pack and ice. If you are in the fresh snow all the time it won't matter. You can also stud your boots for safe trekking, just put them in a place which doesn't interfere with pedals.

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    sorry i meant tear the tire apart

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    Wow. After doing a bit more searching it appears that there are several who have put grip studs and regular studs into Jumbo Jims. To be honest, I'm not crazy about that tire - it seems like there is a fair amount of self-steer - so if there is a good use for them (i.e. winter riding), I may give this a shot.

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    I have experience with 2 tires; Maxxis Colossus and Surly Bud/Lou. The Colossus had a massive self-steer issue, the Bud is not nearly as bad at low pressures. The Bud/Lou is an excellent deep snow tire combo, which I need riding in BCC and LCC. YMMV.

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    Just ordered some Vee Rubber, Snow somethingís? Back here in NH, no studs, no go. Iíve tried to run without, for years now. No more. Too many freeze/thaw cycles and perma-ice bubbles. Some of the worst crashes Iíve had, were on grey ice that looked good to go. Iím thinking about riding more than skiing this winter. I really like bikes.
    crab in my shoe mouth

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    I rode my studded fat tires last year only a few times in mix terrain. Glad I had them as we got several icing events and it gave me peace of mind. I have a spare set of wheels they live on for winter.

    They are fooking expensive but cheaper than a broken arm or concussion.

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