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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    I went through this pretty extensively when I bought the new Altitude...demoed about ten bikes. Went back and forth over whether I was a small or a medium... I simply prefer ~430 reach.
    It really helps me with wheelieing/manualling off of rocks and roots.
    Just get a shorter stem.

    For whatever it's worth, I think chainstay length matters more for ease of manualing than reach. I actually find that I have an easier time holding a manual on bikes with a longer reach - little wobbles are less likely to upset the balance point.

    I'd also say that +/- 5 to 10 mm is too small of a difference to care about. 1) a 5mm change in reach is about the bare minimum that most people would even notice. 2) geo tables from a lot of companies aren't that accurate. 3) crank length, stem length, bar rise, headset spacers, etc. all affect how the reach feels, meaning a 5mm difference in the frame is pretty negligible. 4) same as #2 with respect to suspension. More or less sag will affect your reach a bit.

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    Probably not what you’re after with 130mm rear travel. No geo numbers released yet. Possible spring ‘19 release date. Definitely a unicorn though

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    rocky mountain makes great bikes you can't go wrong
    I"m trying to figure out if I want the element 90 xco, it'd be a great xc bike, but moab or super knarl riding i'm not so sure
    but for average xc riding it's the bomb

    I've had a ton of elements over the years
    have a thunderbolt that is sweet as hell

    considering another thunderbolt or the altitude or the element ugh
    so many choices........

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    Quote Originally Posted by toast2266 View Post
    Just get a shorter stem. .
    Haha...I run a 32mm and my bike is still too long.
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    Leaning towards the C-series Yeti.
    I just need a $2K receipt to accidentally leave on the counter for wifey to see.
    I have many months to think about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Leaning towards the C-series Yeti.
    I just need a $2K receipt to accidentally leave on the counter for wifey to see.
    I have many months to think about it...
    FYI, most shops (ski and bike) will give you a real receipt, but also give you a fake receipt for any price you ask for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by californiagrown View Post
    FYI, most shops (ski and bike) will give you a real receipt, but also give you a fake receipt for any price you ask for.
    Haha...yeah, I owned a shop for 10 years, no stranger to that drill!
    However, my wife has teh googles.
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    So the move is back to 29 XC bikes with slack head tubes? Fuck that. Strava kool aid nonsense. Went through that phase and broke enough 29er wheels. Just light your money on fire before you waste it on carbon wheels.

    By summer 19 a few brands will have a down country bike. Get one, you'll feel 10 years younger I swear.

    Wanna go fast and have more fun? Get a KTM

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    Had a new KTM 450 in 2003-4...I like pedaling better.
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    Looking For A Unicorn...

    I don’t see in any universe that a Smuggler is “lightweight” and the SB100 isn’t much lighter. It’s all relative I guess.

    It’s gonna be tough to meet all of those without either 1) accepting longer reach or 2) an angle set.

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    Devinci Marshall?
    Remind me. We'll send him a red cap and a Speedo.

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    I'm gonna do the Yeti, but have it painted/decal-ed to look like a Diamondback.
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    Looking For A Unicorn...

    I'll likely be laughed out of the room for suggesting it, but what about a 27plus hardtail with 130mm up front and what now passes for "trail" geometry?
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    Life is too short for hardtails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bagtagley View Post
    Devinci Marshall?
    That’d probably be my top pick and they’re blowing them out atm. Nice numbers on those. Might be longer reach than the op is after

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    That Marshall is kind of intriguing, close to identical to the sb100 aside from slightly longer reach. I would like to demo one. That could save a lot of coin.

    The 7 pound frame is a little portly, though.
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    Just saw that the Tallboy might fit the bill...good geo, 430 reach, hta is a little steep, but I could (like others) run a longer fork or works headset.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    That Marshall is kind of intriguing, close to identical to the sb100 aside from slightly longer reach. I would like to demo one. That could save a lot of coin.

    The 7 pound frame is a little portly, though.
    Friend picked up one . Really sharp looking bike. Devinci aren’t known for their light weight for sure. I do trust their engineering though. I don’t see many issues with their bikes and they have a lifetime warrantee. 7lbs is more than I thought it’d be

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    I like the specs on the niner, but good god, the rocker arm looks like something out of 1998. Spindly.
    The reach might even be a little short!
    The specs say the STA is 74, I would like to see a little steeper than that...it looks slack.
    I though niner was kinda...dead?

    http://ninerbikes.com/MY19-JET-9-RDO-3-STAR
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    Turner Czar? 68.2° HTA with 100mm so ~67° with 120mm up front. Turner typically puts their bikes on sale for Black Friday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Turner Czar? 68.2° HTA with 100mm so ~67° with 120mm up front. Turner typically puts their bikes on sale for Black Friday.
    408mm reach on the medium. That's pretty old school. Looking for ~430. Also 73 degree STA. That's whack these days. Thanks for the suggestion, though, keep em' coming!
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    Question is static angles or loaded? Lol

    All these numbers remind me that MTBR may be dead but it is still alive here.

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    99% sure I am getting the Yeti...but this one is intriguing for those of you somewhere else on the planet.

    https://singletrackworld.com/2018/07...bike-for-2019/


    https://www.merida-bikes.com/en_int/...000-11038.html
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    Pulled the trigger today...
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