NE Roll Call 18/19

[JerseyDave]

The facts are found in the study of economics in general and in the article on vtdigger. If it matters enough to you you can do your own research and you will find it to be the truth.

[robrox]

the value is related to all of the sweet instagram pictures i take at rasta. as an official ‘influencer’ each one is about 10k but i have given them to the state at a discounted rate. if anything the value stated deeply underestimates the value of my grams and ill have to sue vermont to renegotiate the terms and raise funds for fyrefest 2 and burning man. or you guys can try to right this injustice by mailing lawson’s and ben and jerry’s pints over the border before this turns into a national incident and we had to build the wall eh

Glad I finished my coffee before reading that. Contender for POTD.

[Benny Profane]

The economy of Vermont grows every year.

Say what? Are you talking about the micro brew biz?

[t-the-east]

I can pretty much handle any scary movie, spooky situations, etc.. but what I just “skied” at WF was absolutely terrifying. I’m gonna have nightmares for sure.

[Benny Profane]

Triple hit of Iceface, huh?

[t-the-east]

Triple hit of Iceface, huh?

Nightmares I tell ya.

[singlecross]

Marijuana income cannot be Federally reported so the financial data in the RASTA study will be flawed for certain regarding these backcountry "users". The weed is free but I charge a hefty delivery fee.

[Boreas]

The facts are found in the study of economics in general and in the article on vtdigger. If it matters enough to you you can do your own research and you will find it to be the truth.

Since you like cherry picking articles to fit your beliefs, I’ll cherry pick from the actual report not the article.

Second paragraph from PAI’s report.

“In other words, Vermonters are doing about as well, or as poorly, as they’ve done for more than a decade. “

[Boreas]

The only gains for to the top 1 percent. Vtdigger publishes a report on it nor long ago. The report cited the shift to services based economy. Just the facts.

^^^^Not the facts, here are the facts: the bottom 20% gained 5.8% and the middle 20% gained 20.6% with the highest gains going to the upper class. All classes had gains from 2006-2016.

The other non factual statement, the actual report doesn’t cite a shift to the service industry as a cause. It actually cites poor policy choices as a cause, as in lawmakers neglecting social services like healthcare, childcare, affordable housing, etc. I’m guessing in this instance you’re combining this info with other articles you’ve read.

[JerseyDave]

https://publicassets.org/library/pub...-vermont-2018/
Vermont’s top 1% averaged 16
times the income of the other
99% Average income, top 1% and bottom
99%, 2015

The Great Depression of 1929 was followed by more than 40 years of fairer
income distribution. By the mid-1970s nearly 93 percent of Vermont income
went to the bottom 99 percent of taxpayers and just over 7 percent to the
wealthiest 1 percent—half their share during the Depression era. But Vermont’s
economy, like the rest of the states’, grew more top heavy after the 1970s. By
the mid-2000s Vermont’s top 1 percent were receiving as much as 17 percent
of the income, and after the Great Recession, from 2010 to 2015, their average
income grew twice as fast as everyone else’s. In 2015, the top 1 percent
claimed $2.7 billion of Vermont’s total adjusted gross income of $19 billion.

What the 2017 data show
State of Working Vermont 2018 includes indicators to answer three questions:
1. Did the overall Vermont economy grow, and who benefited?
• Vermont’s economy has been growing, but not in every county and not as
fast as the rest of the country.
• Economic growth disproportionately benefited those at the top.
• Vermont was one of 10 states where median household income fell in 2017.
• Wages have been stagnant for most Vermont workers.
2. Were Vermonters able to make ends meet?
• Vermont’s prices were average nationally, but wages were low.
• The cost of essentials grew faster than wages.
• 17 percent of Vermont’s young adults lived in poverty.
• 5,000 fewer Vermonters had health insurance in 2017 than in 2016.
3. How was the job market for Vermonters, and who was working?
• The number of private sector jobs continued to grow, but not everywhere
in Vermont.
• New jobs were concentrated in service-providing industries.
• Labor force participation was down for all education levels.

Job growth since 2007 in Vermont has occurred primarily in service-providing industries, while jobs have declined in goods-
producing industries.

[JerseyDave]

More importantly....
WHAT...Heavy snow, sleet, and areas of blowing snow expected.
Total snow and sleet accumulations of 8 to 15 inches expected,
with the highest amounts across northern New York Winds gusting
as high as 35 mph.

* WHERE...Northern, central, and south-central Vermont, as well as
northern New York.

* WHEN...From 1 PM Tuesday to 4 PM EST Wednesday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow will overspread the region from
southwest to northeast during Tuesday afternoon, becoming
locally heavy at times Tuesday evening through Tuesday night. A
mix with sleet is expected Tuesday night, mainly across the
northern Adirondacks and south-central Vermont. Snow will
gradually taper off during the day Wednesday. Snow covered
roadways and visibility reduced to one-quarter mile at times
will create hazardous driving conditions, especially Tuesday
evening, Tuesday night, and for the morning commute on
Wednesday.

[Bottleman]

Nightmares I tell ya.

We found the same on Vermont's Mightiest Hill.

[Boreas]

Well shit, looks like I was citing the 2017 PAI study, my bad.

BTW not all service industry jobs are cleaning rooms. Let me complete your quote.

“Job growth since 2007 in Vermont has occurred primarily in service-providing industries, while jobs have declined in goods- producing industries. Education and Health Services, the industry with the largest increase, includes jobs in higher education, technical schools, and training programs, as well as in hospitals, nursing homes, and social assistance settings; it does not include public school teachers. Over 95 percent of growth in the Education and Health Services industry was due to an increase in health care and social assistance jobs, while half of the growth in Professional and Business Services can be attributed to an increase in administrative and waste services jobs.

[Boreas]

It would be nice if this thing came in hot with fat wet flakes to maybe bond the snow a bit to the ice. From my observations today, you could flick a snowflake off Camels Hump, hike down, and find it on Rt 2 unblemished.

[Benny Profane]

https://publicassets.org/library/pub...-vermont-2018/
Vermont’s top 1% averaged 16
times the income of the other
99% Average income, top 1% and bottom
99%, 2015

The Great Depression of 1929 was followed by more than 40 years of fairer
income distribution. By the mid-1970s nearly 93 percent of Vermont income
went to the bottom 99 percent of taxpayers and just over 7 percent to the
wealthiest 1 percent—half their share during the Depression era. But Vermont’s
economy, like the rest of the states’, grew more top heavy after the 1970s. By
the mid-2000s Vermont’s top 1 percent were receiving as much as 17 percent
of the income, and after the Great Recession, from 2010 to 2015, their average
income grew twice as fast as everyone else’s. In 2015, the top 1 percent
claimed $2.7 billion of Vermont’s total adjusted gross income of $19 billion.

What the 2017 data show
State of Working Vermont 2018 includes indicators to answer three questions:
1. Did the overall Vermont economy grow, and who benefited?
• Vermont’s economy has been growing, but not in every county and not as
fast as the rest of the country.
• Economic growth disproportionately benefited those at the top.
• Vermont was one of 10 states where median household income fell in 2017.
• Wages have been stagnant for most Vermont workers.
2. Were Vermonters able to make ends meet?
• Vermont’s prices were average nationally, but wages were low.
• The cost of essentials grew faster than wages.
• 17 percent of Vermont’s young adults lived in poverty.
• 5,000 fewer Vermonters had health insurance in 2017 than in 2016.
3. How was the job market for Vermonters, and who was working?
• The number of private sector jobs continued to grow, but not everywhere
in Vermont.
• New jobs were concentrated in service-providing industries.
• Labor force participation was down for all education levels.

Job growth since 2007 in Vermont has occurred primarily in service-providing industries, while jobs have declined in goods-
producing industries.

Gee, and what happened since the mid 70s? The ski industry!

[biggins]

Nightmares I tell ya.

Killington was actually pretty fun today- lots of guns running and not a lot of gaptasticness. That said, "unpredictable" would be the polite way to sum up the piste today. "Pants-poop inducing" would also suffice- nothing like a joey just skiiiiiiiding from left to right in the wind. Oy.

[Benny Profane]

It will be different Wednesday morning.

[Bottleman]

It would be nice if this thing came in hot with fat wet flakes to maybe bond the snow a bit to the ice. From my observations today, you could flick a snowflake off Camels Hump, hike down, and find it on Rt 2 unblemished.

I like it hot and wet. Fat, too.

[Moeghoul]

More importantly....
WHAT...Heavy snow, sleet, and areas of blowing snow expected.
Total snow and sleet accumulations of 8 to 15 inches expected,
with the highest amounts across northern New York Winds gusting
as high as 35 mph.

* WHERE...Northern, central, and south-central Vermont, as well as
northern New York.

* WHEN...From 1 PM Tuesday to 4 PM EST Wednesday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Snow will overspread the region from
southwest to northeast during Tuesday afternoon, becoming
locally heavy at times Tuesday evening through Tuesday night. A
mix with sleet is expected Tuesday night, mainly across the
northern Adirondacks and south-central Vermont. Snow will
gradually taper off during the day Wednesday. Snow covered
roadways and visibility reduced to one-quarter mile at times
will create hazardous driving conditions, especially Tuesday
evening, Tuesday night, and for the morning commute on
Wednesday.

Winter 4.0. Not too soon after the past week's soul crusher. Did a few groomer runs today and it was decent. For groomers.

[Peruvian]

All star pond hockey conditions today. Built a fire and had kids, dads and moms, dogs, frankfurters, coolers of beer, and a bunch of really sore old men after 3 1/2 hours of skating and playing. it was a beauty of an afternoon.

[train07]

the ability to look to the left and straight ahead must be a huge advantage during the game

[Vt-Freeheel]

Instead of groomer zooming I went soul searching in the BC.
Firm enough to walk on now. Everywhere I was from top to bottom in the open hardwoods was fully supportive with no breakthroughs, even on 35-40` pitches. Under softwoods, as I found during one downclimb, I was postholing.
Same elevation that was probed at 40" last weekend is now 24-28" though super consolidated as opposed to just jamming the pole to dirt. Lower still has 12-16" left.



An interesting blowout on a little branch stream. All of the streams and seeps are out and made touring a pain, though I shouldn't have been stubborn and took my skis off to cross.






Found a new to me zone of 600'+-
Should have gone down this way instead of pushing on



Going down this way led to "some misery"




Streams looked really nice today



A rimey hole




Overall a beautiful day outside other than the noise of ski crampons on crust and the very loud "skiing". Made 6 linked turns and a couple of thousand tree, branch, rock or stream avoidance moves. Great edge control practice.



Looks like Wednesday/Thursday and possibly Friday morning will be good skiing before the weekend mess fucks it up again.
Get after it!

[biggins]

Purty.

[ex-powderbroker]

i went to go find some steep ice today

[WaistDeepGroomers]

Tried to skin up Stowe Saturday am for "exercise" and couldn't get halfway up Gondolier, skins were slipping so bad. Truly heinous conditions that morning, after a week of being a sport abut it.

Beautiful sunset though and more edgeable conditions at Bolton this eve though. Definitely a mood turner. After being patient with all the best-time-ever'ing going on out west, it'll be fun to have some soft surfaces again.




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